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yoh wrote:
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Or you just suck as him
He's been improved in every way.

is that so?
fully charged neutral B isn't a 1HKO anymore
he can't wavedash
he can't L-cancel

I think some of his moves also have less range due to the altered animations. And his USpecial covers less vertical distance in exchange for being able to direct it more horizontally.

His Smashes aren't anything to be afraid of if you space properly.

Yeah, at the tip of his range, it's like getting by a fan lol.


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really though that's what his smashes are for; punishing bad spacing. and damn, does it do it right.

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We should have a MG smash 4 tournament, that would be rad as f***.

sorry ssf2


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True. I agree. A lot of people are going on a tangent that Roy is broken but he really isn't. He is the opposite of Marth where his concentrated power is at the base.

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Talent Show wrote:
We should have a MG smash 4 tournament, that would be rad as f#%$&.

sorry ssf2

I'd love to see that. It would be a good way to get the community together too.

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SuperSmashDrake wrote:
Talent Show wrote:
We should have a MG smash 4 tournament, that would be rad as f#%$&.

sorry ssf2

I'd love to see that. It would be a good way to get the community together too.


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Kuro Kagami wrote:
natedoesthings wrote:
Or you just suck as him
He's been improved in every way.

is that so?
fully charged neutral B isn't a 1HKO anymore
he can't wavedash
he can't L-cancel

1. Yes it can. I've spent the last week spending hours in the training mode with the 3 new characters and I can confirm it DOES 1 hit KO.
2. Nobody can
3. Nobody can

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it can.
it isn't one.

indirect nerfs are still nerfs. Dorf and Puff got destroyed from Melee to Brawl due to engine changes

Also neutral B doesn't have a hitbox on the sword anymore, only the explosion

again the mentioned nerfed range

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i havent even played roy but there's 0% chance he's worse than he was in melee lmfao

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he's not worse than melee but saying he got nothing but buffs is straight-up wrong lol

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he's not worse than melee but saying he got nothing but buffs is straight-up wrong lol

I Agree He Did Get Nurfed In Some Aspects. I Mean Compared To Melee His Up Smash Hitbox Is Smaller Than Melee....

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he has a lot of range nerfs (they aren't anything huge imo), his down tilt isn't really a combo move anymore, his dash attack is slightly slower, his down smash deals less damage, forward air hits on frame 9 instead of 5 and 7, new down air has a longer startup and less reach, down throw does slightly less damage (lol a whole 1%, but that adds up), blazer gains slightly less distance, counter is slower, and counter's damage is also reduced.


you can buff a character overall but they can still have some nerfs. like sheik, who is amazing now but she still had some tiny nerfs

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
he has a lot of range nerfs (they aren't anything huge imo), his down tilt isn't really a combo move anymore, his dash attack is slightly slower, his down smash deals less damage, forward air hits on frame 9 instead of 5 and 7, new down air has a longer startup and less reach, down throw does slightly less damage (lol a whole 1%, but that adds up), blazer gains slightly less distance, counter is slower, and counter's damage is also reduced.


you can buff a character overall but they can still have some nerfs. like sheik, who is amazing now but she still had some tiny nerfs

I Agree But IMO Roy is Better than He Was In Melee Even WIth All The Nerfs I Just Love His New Dair If You Know How To Use It, It Becomes A Great Combo Starter..

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his new dair i've found is relatively easy to meteor with so

and yeah it's no secret he's better now lmao, i only listed nerfs, not buffs



on the topic of clones, i don't get why everyone requests young link when we already have him

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