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MG Mafia XVII: JoJo's Bizarre Mafia (Fin) 

Who should host next game?
Poll ended at Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:48 pm
CXCIV - Turnabout Mafia (Ace Attorney) 63%  63%  [ 12 ]
Terra - All-stars 2 (Roles based on previous mafia game roles) 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
TheOneWhoKnocks - DotA-themed Mafia (Roles based on heroes from the games) 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
Axel - Kibgdom Hearts Mafia (uPick setup) 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 19

MG Mafia XVII: JoJo's Bizarre Mafia (Fin) 
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Oh, I'm silly. I was in a rush to get my action in last night and didn't think it through. I should have targeted Champ because he claimed that he would die to vampire killers even though Speedwagon confirmed that there were no town vampires. I am a dolt. I apologize.

I wanted to lynch Deciton because I have no guarantee that he is a vampire, even though I'm fairly certain that he is mafia. Shoot. I did not think this through at all. Gah.

Champ is my preferred lynch option. Vote: Champ

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Yes TOWK.

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My point is that taking away a vampire hunter's abilities is completely against the town.
Vote: Champ

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Basically what TOWK said here. There are no town vampires, and taking away the power of a vampire hunter is by no means town.

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Basically what TOWK said here. There are no town vampires, and taking away the power of a vampire hunter is by no means town.

Vote: Champ

Curious as to how you got "there are no town vampires" if Brik isn't confirmed town.

I did ask Speedwagon if vampires were mafia and got a vague reply, I'll try asking him if there are any town vampires.

@Brik: No need to call yourself a dolt :P

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@DJ: Am I going to get those replies to my replies?

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I'm not actually a vampire.

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@DJ: Am I going to get those replies to my replies?

Oh yeah, coming right up.

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RG4L | Champ wrote:
I'm not actually a vampire.

Well! Straight from the man himself. Guess we'll have to take those votes off.


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@194: I find your lack of conviction behind your reads disturbing. It makes them sound made up.

Your reads do not line up with your actions.
Your only conclusive read is on Champ, and yet I have seen you put absolutely no pressure on him nor try to validate your read by asking him questions and forcing him to produce original content.


Pretty much everything I've said so far in the game has backfired. I wouldn't be surprised if, after putting pressure on Champ, I was quickvoted because I'm using a newb player to take attention out of myself.

Alright, fair enough. Please make a case against Champ and we'll go from there.

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How do you get a scum read on TOWK if Deph confirmed Joseph to be in the game and TOWK is uncounterclaimed?

You have a town read on me and I'm an uncounterclaimed jailkeeper.

Yeah but nothing confirmed a jailkeeper to be in the game. Also I had a scum read on you when you posted this.

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How do you get a null read on Brik if he claimed not-town?


Because it's brik. He could perfectly be pulling this for reasons unknown. Even when he claimed not town nobody knows if he's actually Mafia or 3P.

Please stop the Brik is unreadable thing. It not only hurts the town but it hurts MG Mafia too.
If Brik can get away with claiming two different alignments in a game just because everyone always thinks he's scum, something is wrong with MG Mafia.

This is also a contradiction. Null reads imply that there is a possibility that the person could be town, yet you say he's either Mafia or 3P.
But then we get Brik's town claim that everyone seems ok with and skdfjghseiudfgiheghkll

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What do you mean by "Town makes the most sense for your alignment"?

You have taken control of the discussion and lead the scumhunting. If you are scum, bravo, I completely fell for it. But Town is far more reasonable to assume.

I guess. I do what I do because it's my responsibility as a townie. If others don't do it to the extent that I do, that's their choice.

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What is the reasoning behind your Thomas read?

For an uncounterclaimed and practically confirmed overpowered role, he hasn't taken the role he could. He could be far more agressive, or analytical, and cooperate more. But he appears reactive, and letting stuff be, limiting himself to revive people and nothing else. He appears to me like the typical player who believes his night action is his only contribution.

This paragraph makes me sad because it applies to half the people who have ever played MG Mafia. :c
In conclusion though, what's your current read?


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I know for a fact that you find information from roles to be inferior to information from the game thread.
If Arthur has a good claim but bad post game, how do you get a town read on him?

KA's post game is indeed subpar, but at least to me, it doesn't appear lazy. If he was noticeably playing subpar and not trying to do something better, he would most certainly be scum. But he actually looks like he's trying. That, and the claim, give him his current town read.

Doesn't... doesn't that mean he has a good post game then?

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That's deadline day, bud. Could you at least reply to DJ?

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Yeah, I think.

About Arthur, no, he does not have a good post game. His arguments aren't sound most of the time. I'm just saying he at least tries to do stuff.

I have to agree on the Brik subject, and I'll do my best to change that perception. Brik is not the perfect player.

And question, do you mean with this: " Also I had a scum read on you when you posted this.", that you do not have a scum read on me anymore? if so, what's your read on me and what triggered the change?

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Why is the deadline so early?

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Good question. The game is active and deadlines are designed to encourage activity, not cripple us. Speedwagon, could we have another week, please?

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