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Ban people who say they're leaving. 

Remove Departure from Arrivals Section?
Yes 74%  74%  [ 20 ]
No 26%  26%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 27

Ban people who say they're leaving. 
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That's a lot of yes votes, if they're leaving why not just let them leave and be done with it? It's kind of cruel to say you can never come back, especially if they're leaving for a reason they can't control.
Most people don't leave "forever" for a "reason they can't control".

They just leave temporarily if they want to return. People who 'leave' forever are the ones who say s#%$& like "this forum sucks, i'm never coming back and you all suck". These are the kind of people I'd target with that, mainly. Maybe just make it a few month bans or something.

Besides, removing the section wouldn't help, they'd just go back to spamming it into the other section. Attentionwhores won't be discouraged because the right section doesn't exist, but they might just be discouraged if saying that you're "leaving forever" results in a two month ban.

Oh, and Cleod, just in case you don't exactly see how bad this attentionwhoring gets :

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23857
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newest two topics of this nature, check user activity and ESPECIALLY check out the first topic.

No I don't think you get it, I mean by taking the word "Departures" from the title of the section will give you actual justification for a ban if someone posts in there or anywhere else about their leave

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Not to get in the middle of this, but Cleod I've been here 3 months and I see 99% percent of the people who make departure topic end up staying, and the ones who say their leaving for a two month or so are on very often or return in a few days, I believe they make them just to get attention I also think it would be better to do this action: If they say there leaving for two weeks a two week ban of they say their leaving forever a month or two ban.

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Not to get in the middle of this, but Cleod I've been here 3 months and I see 99% percent of the people who make departure topic end up staying, and the ones who say their leaving for a two month or so are on very often or return in a few days, I believe they make them just to get attention I also think it would be better to do this action: If they say there leaving for two weeks a two week ban of they say their leaving forever a month or two ban.

Hm... Well, it's a clever idea to make their ban length match how long they said they would leave, but I don't think it's necessary.

My problem with this whole idea is that it means departures can no longer be posted, so there would be no longer a need for that in the title of the Arrivals section. If we make it the "Arrivals" only section, and start warning/banning people who try to post departures, no one will ever be able to make farewell posts, even if they are good, well known members. That's where I think the problem is.

It would be better to add to the rules something about what is acceptable for a "leaving" topic, then the warning/ban can be justified.

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It will also make departure topics true and less attention begging, you'll hardly ever see useless departure topics when the user ends up staying Zhane for instance he made a topic about leaving and was going to say. So if you at least ban them for that time it will send out a message.

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Cleod9 wrote:
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Not to get in the middle of this, but Cleod I've been here 3 months and I see 99% percent of the people who make departure topic end up staying, and the ones who say their leaving for a two month or so are on very often or return in a few days, I believe they make them just to get attention I also think it would be better to do this action: If they say there leaving for two weeks a two week ban of they say their leaving forever a month or two ban.

Hm... Well, it's a clever idea to make their ban length match how long they said they would leave, but I don't think it's necessary.

My problem with this whole idea is that it means departures can no longer be posted, so there would be no longer a need for that in the title of the Arrivals section. If we make it the "Arrivals" only section, and start warning/banning people who try to post departures, no one will ever be able to make farewell posts, even if they are good, well known members. That's where I think the problem is.

It would be better to add to the rules something about what is acceptable for a "leaving" topic, then the warning/ban can be justified.

Hey, if they're leaving, the ban wouldn't actually affect them because they wouldn't log on if they actually left. Am I repeating myself?

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@Cleod:
As I said before, I believe this idea is great as long as it is applied between certain boundries.
My guess is that Full-Metal Biggoted Hakker ment he wanted full-power the exact same thing.


There is no problem if you are trully leaving the forum for a good period of time.
If that's the case, then you can freely create a departure topic, and tell your forum-mates.


The issue here is the people who create topics to attenton-whore or to tell the forum they are leaving for a week or so.

If you are leaving for a short-period of time, then you will return soon (Duh); so there is no need to create such a topic.
In case you have to tell someone, you can just PM him.

Also, this would also help to avoid topics from people who say they are leaving, but they are really not.
If you "leave" but return every now and then, then you never trully left. You just became an "irregular" user.

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I dont think so beacause when people say that... they dont really mean it.

They'll be back...

They alway come back

...but when dev say leave then demote them to prevent them taking all the good stuff and posting all the good stuff!

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Hey, if they're leaving, the ban wouldn't actually affect them because they wouldn't log on if they actually left. Am I repeating myself?

No I understand that, but the idea of a ban is that you cant come back no matter what. If the leave is only for a certain amount of time I don't see the need to rush and ban the user. It's not supposed to be that exclusive of a web site...

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As I said before, I believe this idea is great as long as it is applied between certain boundries.
My guess is that Full-Metal Biggoted Hakker ment he wanted full-power the exact same thing.


There is no problem if you are trully leaving the forum for a good period of time.
If that's the case, then you can freely create a departure topic, and tell your forum-mates.


The issue here is the people who create topics to attenton-whore or to tell the forum they are leaving for a week or so.

If you are leaving for a short-period of time, then you will return soon (Duh); so there is no need to create such a topic.
In case you have to tell someone, you can just PM him.

Also, this would also help to avoid topics from people who say they are leaving, but they are really not.
If you "leave" but return every now and then, then you never trully left. You just became an "irregular" user.

If that's the problem then we just need a new rule. How about this:

28) No posting departure topics unless you don't plan on coming back and want to say your farewells. If you are in charge of a specific topic/section and need others to know of your leave, let them know within the topic/section instead.

I can't really think of a better way to put it...

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But, most people don't exactly follow the rules, so how would it truly enforce the issue?

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But, most people don't exactly follow the rules, so how would it truly enforce the issue?

In the old days people who didn't follow the rules were warned and banned, mainly when Hakker was around, no matter if they were aware of them or not. :huh:

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But, most people don't exactly follow the rules, so how would it truly enforce the issue?

In the old days people who didn't follow the rules were warned and banned, mainly when Hakker was around, no matter if they were aware of them or not. :huh:

I'm just looking for some reasoning behind the bans, we can't just ban people who say they're leaving with some unwritten rule

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Not to get in the middle of this, but Cleod I've been here 3 months and I see 99% percent of the people who make departure topic end up staying, and the ones who say their leaving for a two month or so are on very often or return in a few days, I believe they make them just to get attention I also think it would be better to do this action: If they say there leaving for two weeks a two week ban of they say their leaving forever a month or two ban.


@Hakker too

I wasnt on every day. I tried to log on from ipods and such to keep myself updated with SSF2. Is that such a crime?

I think this rule is ridiculous and should only be implemented in extreme situations, for example, when people leave saying "they hate this place" or "f*** you"


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Cleod9 wrote:
MultiSenhor wrote:
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But, most people don't exactly follow the rules, so how would it truly enforce the issue?

In the old days people who didn't follow the rules were warned and banned, mainly when Hakker was around, no matter if they were aware of them or not. :huh:

I'm just looking for some reasoning behind the bans, we can't just ban people who say they're leaving with some unwritten rule

What I just said, if there were rules about it, there would be a reason to ban them. Just make a new rule, if they don't follow it, it is their problem.

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The only people at fault are those who do it for post count/attention.

It isn't a forum-breaking problem, it's just the douchbaggyness of people is kinda stupid. Nobody cares if you say "I'm going forever" but come back the next day. Individuals need to be punished. This already falls under the rule of no spamming outside of the spam section (as if anyone followed that rule ever...).

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So why do we have a moderator section? :wee:

Section for the dick suckers moderators to make them feel special talk about important issues on the forums. It's just a forum that is named "moderator section"


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The only people at fault are those who do it for post count/attention.

It isn't a forum-breaking problem, it's just the douchbaggyness of people is kinda stupid. Nobody cares if you say "I'm going forever" but come back the next day. Individuals need to be punished. This already falls under the rule of no spamming outside of the spam section (as if anyone followed that rule ever...).

It's not spam though, its departure, as attention whoring as it is, its departure.


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