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Thundaga_T2
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So... Moving on, anyone else think that Ashe should have been the main character in FF12 instead of Vaan?
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:08 pm |
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Mr. Dude
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It would of made more sense if she was. At one point I just stopped putting Vaan into my active party.
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:15 pm |
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Hakker
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You make it sound like he discarded it, saying he never wanted to come back there. The opposite is actually true, and he only left because of a guilt-driven goal to become a hero so he could impress Tifa and because he thought he was too weak, almost leading to her death when they were children. Is that supposed to make the fact that his hometown was burnt to the ground and most of the populace being slain any less hard? That's like saying your parents dying isn't saddening, since you don't live with them anymore. As for Squall, while the leader position was definitely more prominently featured, and he was certainly still socially awkward about many things(which only lessened closer to the end of the game), you could however see that he was 'lowering his defenses', so to speak, allowing himself to care about his comrades, something he would never have allowed before, due to the traumatic experience as said before. Heck, when the Missile Base team turns out to be alive, he actually shows happiness at this. I never even considered him the main character, but the 'player character', which doesn't have to be the same thing. He's the eyes of the character, he's the one who gives us the perspective on the world and also who acts as the 'fish out of water' so other characters have an excuse to explain things that should be common knowledge to everyone else in the team. Main character should probably be Ashe or Balthier, I kinda favor Balthier because he was the more diverse character.
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Death'saWoopingRiot
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With that as a basis, who do you consider the "main" and who do you consider the "player" of Final Fantasy VI?
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Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:59 am |
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Mr. Dude
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No objections, moving on. I never said that he was uncaring, I said he wasn't social. There's a very large difference, good sir. He did show he had a heart during several points in the story but I never experienced him lowering his defenses, outside of his love and knighthood for Rinoa, and even then he was incredibly finicky about when he would talk openly with her. Personally, that's a headache I care to avoid right now.
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Hakker
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Oh god, that's a toughie... Final Fantasy VI is a hard one to describe, because of the way they split the party up and then make you lead these parties. It jumps between Terra and Locke most frequently, and then Celes during the second half of the game.. It really depends on what point of the game you're at. But the fact that he cared for them shows he lowered his defenses, though. The entire point behind him being such a prick is so that people wouldn't care about him, and he wouldn't care about them. That way, if they left him(or died), he wouldn't feel the same pain he did when his 'sister' vanished. Early in the game, he makes it quite clear that 'completing the mission is all that matters' to him, even going as far as to not share a second glance when Seifer is in risk of being executed, all because it's not part of his mission. (Granted, you could say that's because he and Seifer didn't get along, but his thought bubbles in Galbadia garden, shortly after that incident, reveal otherwise)
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Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:26 am |
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Thundaga_T2
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I think Ashe should have been the main character in FF12 seeing as how most of the story revolves around her and not Vaan. In fact, the story is more centered on her than the other characters. Baltheir gets some story recognition, but its more about Ashe than anyone else.
I also tend to think that for FFX, Tidus and Yuna should be considered co-main characters, as the story is centered on Yuna, told from Tidus' persective. And Tidus and Sin are related.
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Scott
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Wakka is obviously the main character of FFX.
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Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:21 pm |
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Mr. Dude
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 |  |  |  | Hakker wrote: But the fact that he cared for them shows he lowered his defenses, though. The entire point behind him being such a prick is so that people wouldn't care about him, and he wouldn't care about them. That way, if they left him(or died), he wouldn't feel the same pain he did when his 'sister' vanished. Early in the game, he makes it quite clear that 'completing the mission is all that matters' to him, even going as far as to not share a second glance when Seifer is in risk of being executed, all because it's not part of his mission. (Granted, you could say that's because he and Seifer didn't get along, but his thought bubbles in Galbadia garden, shortly after that incident, reveal otherwise) |  |  |  |  |
Caring about someone and lowering defenses aren't always related. Besides, if that same thought bubbles in Galbadia Garden are to hold any water he also wanted people to at least remember him, otherwise he wouldn't of gone nearly ballistic about him becoming a memory after death. However during this time he still opted to just leave the room then actually explain what he was thinking, so he was still in the region of anti-socialism while still caring what others saw/thought of him.
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Dhragen
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Changing the topic, i just saw the DLC Battle of Ultros and Typhon on FF XIII-2 and......i really like what they have done with Ultros this time. For me that personality really mirrors his VI's self, and.....that VA is so ackward, yet so perfect, 
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i have a question is 13 really worth the buy i mean gameplay wise or should i just get versus
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Kittenpuncher
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Hard to say. The first two disks aren't very good, but it really starts to own after that there's about 70 hours of gameplay too
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Kurodyne
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Alright, well, I plan on getting Final Fantasy 13, and I really need to ask this question because it's like, killing me out of curiosity.
What weapons does each character use? I don't know how to type such a question into Google without getting funky results, and I'm gonna stay away from the Final Fantasy Wiki to avoid spoiling anything for myself.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:29 pm |
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Lightning
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Gunblades Gunblades are used by Lightning. As the name implies, these weapons have two modes that can be switched (but not directly by the player); the "Gun-mode" allows Lightning to fire projectiles and the "Blade-mode" lets her perform melee attacks. While not used, gunblades are folded and put into a holster.
Pistols Sazh uses a pair of pistols as his weapons of choice. He can combine them into an assault rifle to deal more powerful damage.
Emblems Snow fights barehanded, but he actually uses a coat that enhances his strength and endurance with AMP technology. Different emblems can be attached to this coat for different enhancements, which disappear when not participating in battle. The type of emblem models also determine the visual effect created each time Snow delivers a physical hit to the enemy.
Boomerangs Boomerangs are Hope's weapons of choice. Due to the futuristic technology, they appear to be remotely controllable even after being thrown, capable of dealing multiple hits before returning to their owner. They can also be folded and stored away when not needed.
Rods Vanille utilizes foldable rods in battle. They normally serve as a magic conjuring device, but the hooks on the wires attached to them can also deal damage by latching on and pulling, working similarly to a fishing rod.
Spears Fang fights with Spears. They are all two-bladed and can be split into a three-section staff called a San Setsu-Kon for more flexible attacks.
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Kurodyne
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So basically
Guns/Sword Mixture - Lightning Pistols - Sazh Fists - Snow Boomerang - Hope Rods - Vanille Spears - Fang
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