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TheCodeSamurai wrote:
Dspec cancels on the edge and pops up when landing, so it's perfectly viable for combos. What they're probably talking about is grounded down-special to aerial down-special to dair, which sometimes works.

In general, I'm assuming you didn't play against anyone very good or a CPU. CPU's are stupid: don't trust them to model actual players. If I can beat a level 9 CPU with just Falcon Punch, does that make the move viable in neutral?

Please in the future try to make what you say clearer. I don't care if you write like Steinbeck on the fora, but it helps when replying if it's clearer what you actually mean.

I did play against somebody online and i won by spamming DspecAir, the next match, the person quitted cuz i was spamming with it, so it is annoying and should be removed. I know it cancels off a ledge but thats it.

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Aerial DownB spam is annoying yes, but if you lose to someone spamming this move then honestly you deserve to lose the match. Aerial DownB is cancelable if any parts of the move hits, and you jump out of it iirc.

Why buff SideB? Its good already as is. Helpless is there because the sweetspot WILL kill, why make it where you miss, you can still wack your opponent around? If helplessness is removed, then so should the sweetspot.

The range is as is because of his Chargable Homing Attack helps A LOT in his recovery, and SideB is adjustable, allowing for mixups.

Just my cents though. Honestly people are making Sonic sound worse than what he is. If he needs buffs, then they're minor, and not in the places people suggest.


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Aerial DownB spam is annoying yes, but if you lose to someone spamming this move then honestly you deserve to lose the match. Aerial DownB is cancelable if any parts of the move hits, and you jump out of it iirc.

Why buff SideB? Its good already as is. Helpless is there because the sweetspot WILL kill, why make it where you miss, you can still wack your opponent around? If helplessness is removed, then so should the sweetspot.Are you listening? I said it should be buffed in distance and range.

The range is as is because of his Chargable Homing Attack helps A LOT in his recovery, and SideB is adjustable, allowing for mixups.

Just my cents though. Honestly people are making Sonic sound worse than what he is. If he needs buffs, then they're minor, and not in the places people suggest.

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Kyo Tanaka wrote:
Aerial DownB spam is annoying yes, but if you lose to someone spamming this move then honestly you deserve to lose the match. Aerial DownB is cancelable if any parts of the move hits, and you jump out of it iirc.

Why buff SideB? Its good already as is. Helpless is there because the sweetspot WILL kill, why make it where you miss, you can still wack your opponent around? If helplessness is removed, then so should the sweetspot.Are you listening? I said it should be buffed in distance and range.Its definetly not like he said anything one line later... No seriously. You complain to others that they dont read what you are saying and then practically do nothing else. Here, I guess I can mark it for you:

The range is as is because of his Chargable Homing Attack helps A LOT in his recovery, and SideB is adjustable, allowing for mixups.

Just my cents though. Honestly people are making Sonic sound worse than what he is. If he needs buffs, then they're minor, and not in the places people suggest.

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Skailler wrote:
ProjectBrawl7 wrote:
Kyo Tanaka wrote:
Aerial DownB spam is annoying yes, but if you lose to someone spamming this move then honestly you deserve to lose the match. Aerial DownB is cancelable if any parts of the move hits, and you jump out of it iirc.

Why buff SideB? Its good already as is. Helpless is there because the sweetspot WILL kill, why make it where you miss, you can still wack your opponent around? If helplessness is removed, then so should the sweetspot.Are you listening? I said it should be buffed in distance and range.Its definetly not like he said anything one line later... No seriously. You complain to others that they dont read what you are saying and then practically do nothing else. Here, I guess I can mark it for you:

The range is as is because of his Chargable Homing Attack helps A LOT in his recovery, and SideB is adjustable, allowing for mixups.I already read that, smartass.

Just my cents though. Honestly people are making Sonic sound worse than what he is. If he needs buffs, then they're minor, and not in the places people suggest.

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ProjectBrawl7 wrote:
Skailler wrote:
ProjectBrawl7 wrote:
Kyo Tanaka wrote:
Aerial DownB spam is annoying yes, but if you lose to someone spamming this move then honestly you deserve to lose the match. Aerial DownB is cancelable if any parts of the move hits, and you jump out of it iirc.

Why buff SideB? Its good already as is. Helpless is there because the sweetspot WILL kill, why make it where you miss, you can still wack your opponent around? If helplessness is removed, then so should the sweetspot.Are you listening? I said it should be buffed in distance and range.Its definetly not like he said anything one line later... No seriously. You complain to others that they dont read what you are saying and then practically do nothing else. Here, I guess I can mark it for you:

The range is as is because of his Chargable Homing Attack helps A LOT in his recovery, and SideB is adjustable, allowing for mixups.I already read that, smartass.Why are you still complaining then? Makes no sense.

Just my cents though. Honestly people are making Sonic sound worse than what he is. If he needs buffs, then they're minor, and not in the places people suggest.

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Lets just shut the f*** up so we dont look like angry CoD fanboys.

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Bro you are literally the only person here right now resembling that.

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Dude, shut up, i dont wanna start a flame war on the forums because i dont wanna get reported and im pretty sure you dont wanna either.

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What am I gonna get reported for. I havent broken any rules, youre the one flying off the handle here lol.

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Man your a ignorant special snowflake.

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Whatever. Just focus on the character. His side B just needs a bit slower start up, higher distance and a bit longer range, also a bit weaker. And i know that the DspecAir cancels when the hitbox gets somebody, that useful though.

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Again. SideB do not need a buff in how far it goes.

Explain why it desperately needs an increase in range. If you say for recovery, I ought to smack you.


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So you can build up combos better within range, recovery and a close sweetspot killer by making it a bit weaker.

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