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that's xenosaga and as far as I'm concerned it isn't really related. they share writers and that's about it
plus Namco loves Xenosaga and they shove it wherever they can for no reason

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
that's xenosaga and as far as I'm concerned it isn't really related. they share writers and that's about it
plus Namco loves Xenosaga and they shove it wherever they can for no reason

Sounds like kid icarus. [Being Serious, nintendo shoved that game around too when it was released and in smash bros imo, which annoys me.]

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no, kid icarus is not at the same level as Xenosaga

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
no, kid icarus is not at the same level as Xenosaga

If going around being sterotypical and being over rep-ed in a crossover{From 1 character and stage to 2 characters, a mirror clone, 3 stages, and 2 assist trophies, not the mention majority of smash run is filled with enemies from that game even more then MARIO itself, even replacing a character who was more loved, imo and trying hard to replace them while failing isn't close to the level of xenosaga, well i can only image how many xenosaga they shove into pacman and all their other titles.

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You care about this way too much

Sakurai made Kid Icarus Uprising, of course he's going to represent it in the crossover game he also makes

Did you complain about Brawl having too many Kirby characters? If you didn't then what you're saying is invalid


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If anything kirby was under-rep [Last i check ppl knew who the f%^# kirby was] until brawl, your logic confuses me, i'm not saying that any series should only get 1 extra rep every new crossover and no more, but serious what does icarus bring to the table that wasn't already in another game or already done in smash, at least kirby had interesting systems that could be intergated in brawl {Smash run was a utter disappointment}

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
no, kid icarus is not at the same level as Xenosaga

If going around being sterotypical and being over rep-ed in a crossover{From 1 character and stage to 2 characters, a mirror clone, 3 stages, and 2 assist trophies, not the mention majority of smash run is filled with enemies from that game even more then MARIO itself, even replacing a character who was more loved, imo and trying hard to replace them while failing isn't close to the level of xenosaga, well i can only image how many xenosaga they shove into pacman and all their other titles.

lol xenosaga: show
well I mean, Xenosaga has had three characters in the first NxC crossover, then had another one in PXZ. with a very large role in the story of the latter.
regarding KOSMOS, she's fully playable in a Tales crossover (which is bizarre since she's not a Tales character)
not to mention she had a costume in SC3 and Tales of Vesperia for some silly reason
she was also a cameo boss in i want to say the PSP version of Eternia. may not have been Eternia though, but it was one of the Tales games.
they even remade two of her games on the DS.

with kid icarus, while it has a lot of content in Smash, one character is a clone which takes minimal time to add. for dark pit, they gave him a (cloned) final smash, three different properties on three attacks, and a spot in all star/the character select/etc. people say he needed voice clips and stuff but he already had those from when he was a costume.
the models for smash run were probably used since they fit in fine with Smash, honestly. KI:Uprising was actually designed with the idea of fitting content for Smash.

dark pit didn't replace anyone lmao

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Never said that, though i will consider dark pit enough of a character to say he is a rep for that series [even if it took minimal effort]
I just hope sm4sh was the last of icarus in a while.

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"even replacing a character that was more loved"

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
"even replacing a character that was more loved"

I was refering to snake codecs with guidence[Which were bland]

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it wasn't attempting to replace it. Kid Icarus has conversations like that in Uprising. a lot of people wanted them.
it's coincidence that KI:U had conversations and they got added after Snake got cut.

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Still doesn't justify how boring they were when they had much better conversations in Uprising imo, not to mention reusing the same one for all the dlc characters.

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they used it because they didn't want to drag the voice actors back every time a DLC character was made

the conversations being disappointing has nothing to do with the argument though lmao

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Why not? My argument is that Kid Icarus is disappointed and didn't really need this over rep in it, and yes the quality of Guidance is imo has to do with what we are talking about, it was disappointed and it didn't have to be imo.

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mage wrote:
Still doesn't justify how boring they were when they had much better conversations in Uprising imo, not to mention reusing the same one for all the dlc characters.

It's literally that or nothing because Snake will never be in Smash again

Deal with it


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