twisted fate = win game or something

Any tips with Cho'Gath, Helmerdinger, and Ryze?

It's just to bad every other Nuke does what Malzahar does, just better. Ryze, for instance, can get a confirmed kill easily and his cool downs are much shorter.

And on the topic of Twitch, I enjoy raping him.

Mal can clear a line of creeps with one skill at lvl 9. He also Nukes And dots so he doesn't have to chase. He's squishy sure but be basically does what ryze does but better, Malefic visions also rapes. THe only stealther thats truly a b**** is shaco simply because even though he can't stun rape you guardian angel works on him and his clone. OP if you ask me.

I challenge you to a match then. 1v1 Ryze vs Malzahar

1v1 matches tend to not be fair, at all.

Mal can clear a line of creeps with one skill at lvl 9. He also Nukes And dots so he doesn't have to chase. He's squishy sure but be basically does what ryze does but better, Malefic visions also rapes. THe only stealther thats truly a b**** is shaco simply because even though he can't stun rape you guardian angel works on him and his clone. OP if you ask me.

WRONG, Ryze has shorter cool downs, and all his attacks can do MORE DAMAGE, not only that but his stun isn't his ult, infact, his stun recover's faster than Malz's does. On top of this, Ryze moves faster, and he has an attack that at level 9 can also clear a whole line of minions.

Lol what attack flux? That doesn't clear s*** unless you were fed like hell at lvl 9. Malefic Visions also does s*** tons of damage on its own. Also *points what what thai says* All his attacks do more damage? Show me the proof. His passive is really the only lame thing. Also mal can stun AND silence.

That's why I said bring it 1v1 because practice > theory.

I JUST covered all of this. Did you even read it?

Statistically speaking, Malzahar deals far more damage than Ryze can. Yes Malzahar require the target to stay in place, but that is what his ult is for.

If Ryze gets identical AP, his damage increases by about 7%. I went over that already too. You can't actually argue with the math here. At low levels yes Ryze gets a whole lot better, but late game his ult doesn't do nearly as much as you seem to think it does.

I also compared the cooldowns, which you would know if you had read the post.

They don't need to be nuked onto a single target as quickly as Ryze can, if Ryze takes twice as long to target people, not much changes. The time it takes to click 4 buttons is not long enough to matter. This point is irrelevant.

With any competent Malzahar player it is a small matter to hit people with the q, and the e is a simple target, I am not sure why you insist it will be avoided. The w he might be able to avoid, if he isn't stunned, but he is, so he can't.

Please actually read the post before disagreeing.

True. But then again, its not like I'm using Singed or anything.