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Brik has a point. Dephius said that there was nothing really scummy going on here. Even though clearly terra is acting very out of order. It seems like he was trying to cover up for Terra in this case.
I don't exactly like him accusing everyone as a mafia, but I Brik is onto something.

Terra is scummy (And yes I believe this), Terra isn't scummy. Make up your damn minds people.

I still think we don't have enough to go onto, I don't want a mislynch.

Also, can we get a vote count please?


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1. Don't say "contradictions abound" then try to point a single one out. It's making something out to be worse than it is.
2. I don't get what you see odd. It says it plainly, I think the day is ready to end but it's probably only helpful to scum to end it early. Hence why I'm not voting NL, I'm not advocating ending the day early but we'll probably not get much else out of it.

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What.
Dephius wrote:
There's nothing really scummy happening, Vote: No lynch
Dephius wrote:
Dephius wrote:
Terra is scummy (And yes I believe this)
Terra didn't say a word between these two posts of Dephius'.

Dephius is now my preferred target. Vote: Dephius.



@TheOneWhoKnocks: Fair point, that was a poor choice of words on my part. I think I said that because of how blatant the single contradiction was.
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2. I don't get what you see odd. It says it plainly, I think the day is ready to end but it's probably only helpful to scum to end it early. Hence why I'm not voting NL, I'm not advocating ending the day early but we'll probably not get much else out of it.

Ok, that's not really how you phrased it, but I'll buy that. My deal is that saying "While I agree that it's time to end the day" seems an awful lot like advocating to me.

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Just to clarify, I mean advocating more along the lines of semi-passive agreement, not active argument in favor of.

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Brikmaninoff wrote:
What.
Dephius wrote:
There's nothing really scummy happening, Vote: No lynch
Dephius wrote:
Dephius wrote:
Terra is scummy (And yes I believe this)
Terra didn't say a word between these two posts of Dephius'.

Dephius is now my preferred target. Vote: Dephius.

I believe Terra is scummy because of all the scum stuff he's posted. Of course he didn't say a word between those two posts, but don't forget all the posts before that. I was voting for him before those two posts. And you said you believed we're a scum team.


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Can someone tell me again why lynching is a bad thing when we have some very shady characters amonst us?
I mean, I get it, the chances of us lynching correctly is low, but that was before when we lacked evidence. Now we have THREE people who each have a fair amount of evidence against them to warrant a lynch. Waiting for the night might be playing right into the mafia hands.(They might kill specific people to make us think something else.) Also we really don't even know if we have a cop or not.(and if we do what are the chances he's sane?)

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What Brik is trying to say is, if you really thought Terra was scummy then why did you say nothing really scummy is going on here and then vote no lynch?


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@Brik, yeah I probably could've phrased it better, but I don't think ending the day right this minute is necessarily a good thing.
@BB, i think you might have a good point actually. I know I personally hesitant to lynch before because I rushed to lynch Nixter last game and it got us a killed townie. But as the suspects keep doing more scummy things, lynching noe might not be the worst thing in the world. Although who's the third person you're talking about? I get Deph and Terra, but don't see a third.

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I'm saying that regardless of what it might theoretically be, acting "convinced" of a link between two players when the evidence for such a link is light at best smacks of an ulterior motive.

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But as the suspects keep doing more scummy things, lynching noe might not be the worst thing in the world.
Would you mind clarifying what you mean here, TheOneWhoKnocks? I can't make it out because the typo is in the most crucial part of the sentence.

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Although who's the third person you're talking about? I get Deph and Terra, but don't see a third.
I'm pretty sure he's referring to Lucina.

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I'm saying that regardless of what it might theoretically be, acting "convinced" of a link between two players when the evidence for such a link is light at best smacks of an ulterior motive.
Oh. That's because there is an ulterior motive.


As an aside, this thread needs more Crabby and Graphyte.

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But as the suspects keep doing more scummy things, lynching *now* might not be the worst thing in the world.

My bad, typing on a phone is a pain in the a**.

And yes, cactus and crabby need to post more.
194, requesting a prod on both of them.

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You guys are confusing.

Can't really post anything intelligent right now so I'm not going to write a paragraph, but I THINK I'm voting correctly when I Vote: Terra

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I read that last few pages and everyone seems scummy =(

(Posting mainly to prove I'm not inactive. Pages go by so quickly!)


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Believeblood wrote:
Can someone tell me again why lynching is a bad thing when we have some very shady characters amonst us?
I mean, I get it, the chances of us lynching correctly is low, but that was before when we lacked evidence. Now we have THREE people who each have a fair amount of evidence against them to warrant a lynch. Waiting for the night might be playing right into the mafia hands.(They might kill specific people to make us think something else.) Also we really don't even know if we have a cop or not.(and if we do what are the chances he's sane?)

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What Brik is trying to say is, if you really thought Terra was scummy then why did you say nothing really scummy is going on here and then vote no lynch?

because it's Day 1. Nothing big happens, so at the slightest mention of anything scummy said by someone, said person is attacked. The attacker is then supported by several of his friends, going on accusations with little to no base. And before you know it, *poof* townie dead. Go ahead and lynch him, I'll vote if asked to, but if we get a mislynch, I'm going hard on whoever started the wagon.


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Catching up atm, and here are my thoughts so far.

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Vote: DJ Wizard Cop

Omigudnis u suck.

Vote: DJ Wizard Cop

This doesn't set well with me. Even if it's just 'goofing around' during the random vote phase of d1, self voting does no good.
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Moving on to later in the day and the almost Terra wagon, I feel I'm missing something; it's not clear to me what series of posts led to Terra being considered 'obv scum' by a good chunk of people.
Also, agree with Void and DJW statements on Brik.
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Honestly, I'm nitpicking the s*** out Terra's posts too much. I was really just trying to get more conversation started anyway. It's good to test for reactions. Unfortunately, I haven't really gotten anything though :/ . I dont want this to turn into another lynch like Nixter last game

Complete 180 from the general attitude of TOWK's previous posts of the day. Seems to drop the pressure for little to no reason.
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Not liking the rushes to nl to end the day. The way dj wiz phrased his voting for nl makes it seem to me that he was attempting to start a bw for it.

Right now scum vibes from Brik, TOWK, and DJ Wiz at the moment.

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Crabby, the reason I backed off of Terra was because I realized I was doing the same thing I did to Nixter last game. I didn't want to rush to a lynch because it would most likely end up being a mislynch. But although I was nitpicking, I still find Terra suspicious and wouldn't be opposed to his lynch.

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