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Weavile wrote:
I would kill you, DVD, because you are a good arguer, you can get people to follow you, and you are. just plain and simple, good at mafia.


I've been thinking about this a lot lately. While I wouldn't say I'm good at Mafia, I certainly have been involved an awful lot. The reason why I think I'm still alive is because I've pointed the finger of blame at someone in the Mafia at some stage and so if I did, it could fairly easily be traced back to a Mafioso. Another alternative is that I'm incredibly supportive of a Mafia member; one of the people who I believe is innocent is a Mafioso and they believe that I will support them.
A third feasible reason would be the fact that I've constantly been pressing for conversation and the Mafia are confident in their ability to let less slip than most other people and use my prodding to create an opening to lynch them, just like many of you probably are in your own ability.

BTW I claim Oracle. All counterclaims should speak up now. Oh wait, there aren't any.[/quote]

You could just be saying that because a role revealer hasn't stepped forwards yet so they're probably someone who rarely contributes. I'm not sure whether or not no one revoking your role could be used as evidence or not. This game would be so much better if everyone participated properly. However, your confidence makes me rethink what I've said. Not enough to change my vote yet, I'll admit, but enough to make me stop in my tracks. I'll ease off the pressure, but I won't revoke my vote just yet.

IS ANYBODY OUT THERE A ROLE REVEALER?

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Someone counterclaiming Oracle would be fantastic right about now.

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I just realised, this is stupid. Now, even if someone does claim the role revealer, the Mafia get the advantage because they find out both people they need to target. Weavile would die, sure, but EVERYONE who makes the night time useful for us could get wiped out. Kyuubit's already about to suffer for what he said, now the role revealer will too, regardless of whether or not Weavile actually is innocent or not.

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Do we want the role revealer to show who they are?

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Mafia don't want to kill Oracles, because that's just an opportunity for us to figure out who one of them is.
The more of them we kill, the harder it is for them to win the game, because they need an outnumbering to win.
May as well Lynch Weavile, if he's Mafia, great! If he's not, then at least we get to reveal someone's role.

...Although re-reading earlier posts in this topic, Weavile honestly seems to be trying to contribute to the effort to find the Mafia. Plus, knowing Weavile, I doubt he'd come up with "I'm the Oracle", unless he actually was. He seems more like the type to say "I'm the revealing role".
I'm no longer convinced of his guiltiness.
Unvote: Weavile

However, my previous reasoning still stands in that we need a lynch. Any thoughts on who that lynch should be, fellow townsfolk?
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FINALLY, concluding this post is an admission.
I am the real investigative role, being a Cop. Kyuubit is probably just a villager. I have no idea why Kyuubit claimed it, (probably to protect the real one), but I need to claim this so that I can tell you this; On all three nights, I have investigated various people and only gotten innocent results. I'm worried I'm the naive cop, but it's not impossible for me to be the insane cop or the normal cop.
For the record (in case I die tonight, a likely event)
Kyuubit-Innocent
DVDV-Innocent
Jasonguy-Innocent

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Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:37 am
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Tid wrote:
Mafia don't want to kill Oracles, because that's just an opportunity for us to figure out who one of them is.Not a problem with the role blocker Max mentioned
The more of them we kill, the harder it is for them to win the game, because they need an outnumbering to win.
May as well Lynch Weavile, if he's Mafia, great! If he's not, then at least we get to reveal someone's role.

...Although re-reading earlier posts in this topic, Weavile honestly seems to be trying to contribute to the effort to find the Mafia. Plus, knowing Weavile, I doubt he'd come up with "I'm the Oracle", unless he actually was. He seems more like the type to say "I'm the revealing role". I'm guessing he just chose a random one and sprouted it.
I'm no longer convinced of his guiltiness.
Unvote: Weavile Despite the fact that you said
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May as well Lynch Weavile
just earlier in your post? I'll consider revoking my vote based on whether or not I have some sort of indication as to whether or not a real role revealer would have rocked up (as in a largish proportion of people have revealed that they are not the role revealer)


However, my previous reasoning still stands in that we need a lynch. Any thoughts on who that lynch should be, fellow townsfolk? Not really. A huge problem is the fact that many people don't come in very often and therefore don't let anything slip. A perfect cover that many people may or may not be using.
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FINALLY, concluding this post is an admission.
I am the real investigative role, being a Cop. Kyuubit is probably just a villager. I have no idea why Kyuubit claimed it, (probably to protect the real one)

I KNEW IT!

Or at least, I knew what Kyuubit was, I worked it out some time "today", but I won't say what it is, in case I help the Mafia. The fact that you've shown he's not mafia makes me even more sure I'm right.


but I need to claim this so that I can tell you this; On all three nights, I have investigated various people and only gotten innocent results. I'm worried I'm the naive cop, but it's not impossible for me to be the insane cop or the normal cop.

maxmatsu wrote:
there is no alterations to the roles (If doc, its normal doc, if cop, its normal cop).


For the record (in case I die tonight, a likely event)
Kyuubit-Innocent It's no surprise you looked into Kyuubit :P
DVDV-Innocent It's always nice to have someone who can testify your innocence :D
Jasonguy-Innocent Why'd you investigate JasonGuy out of curiosity?

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]~DVDV~[ wrote:
Tid wrote:
Mafia don't want to kill Oracles, because that's just an opportunity for us to figure out who one of them is.Not a problem with the role blocker Max mentioned
The more of them we kill, the harder it is for them to win the game, because they need an outnumbering to win.
May as well Lynch Weavile, if he's Mafia, great! If he's not, then at least we get to reveal someone's role.

...Although re-reading earlier posts in this topic, Weavile honestly seems to be trying to contribute to the effort to find the Mafia. Plus, knowing Weavile, I doubt he'd come up with "I'm the Oracle", unless he actually was. He seems more like the type to say "I'm the revealing role". I'm guessing he just chose a random one and sprouted it.
Eh, maybe. Seems unlikely is all.
I'm no longer convinced of his guiltiness.
Unvote: Weavile Despite the fact that you said
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May as well Lynch Weavile
just earlier in your post? I'll consider revoking my vote based on whether or not I have some sort of indication as to whether or not a real role revealer would have rocked up (as in a largish proportion of people have revealed that they are not the role revealer)

I changed my mind mid-post.

However, my previous reasoning still stands in that we need a lynch. Any thoughts on who that lynch should be, fellow townsfolk? Not really. A huge problem is the fact that many people don't come in very often and therefore don't let anything slip. A perfect cover that many people may or may not be using.
Yeah. Has anyone been especially inactive? We could vote them.
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FINALLY, concluding this post is an admission.
I am the real investigative role, being a Cop. Kyuubit is probably just a villager. I have no idea why Kyuubit claimed it, (probably to protect the real one)

I KNEW IT!

Or at least, I knew what Kyuubit was, I worked it out some time "today", but I won't say what it is, in case I help the Mafia. The fact that you've shown he's not mafia makes me even more sure I'm right.

Huh. He's made like, three posts total. How the hell did you work anything out?

but I need to claim this so that I can tell you this; On all three nights, I have investigated various people and only gotten innocent results. I'm worried I'm the naive cop, but it's not impossible for me to be the insane cop or the normal cop.

maxmatsu wrote:
there is no alterations to the roles (If doc, its normal doc, if cop, its normal cop).

Oh, excellent.
For the record (in case I die tonight, a likely event)
Kyuubit-Innocent It's no surprise you looked into Kyuubit :P
DVDV-Innocent It's always nice to have someone who can testify your innocence :D
Jasonguy-Innocent Why'd you investigate JasonGuy out of curiosity?
No reason. Just someone random.

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Who should I investigate tonight? (Even though I probably won't survive through the night.)

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If Weavile survives, him.

(Longer post to follow)

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Yeah, makes sense.

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Tid wrote:
]~DVDV~[ wrote:
Tid wrote:
Mafia don't want to kill Oracles, because that's just an opportunity for us to figure out who one of them is.Not a problem with the role blocker Max mentioned
The more of them we kill, the harder it is for them to win the game, because they need an outnumbering to win.
May as well Lynch Weavile, if he's Mafia, great! If he's not, then at least we get to reveal someone's role.

...Although re-reading earlier posts in this topic, Weavile honestly seems to be trying to contribute to the effort to find the Mafia. Plus, knowing Weavile, I doubt he'd come up with "I'm the Oracle", unless he actually was. He seems more like the type to say "I'm the revealing role". I'm guessing he just chose a random one and sprouted it.
Eh, maybe. Seems unlikely is all.
But not impossible
I'm no longer convinced of his guiltiness.
Unvote: Weavile Despite the fact that you said
Tid wrote:
May as well Lynch Weavile
just earlier in your post? I'll consider revoking my vote based on whether or not I have some sort of indication as to whether or not a real role revealer would have rocked up (as in a largish proportion of people have revealed that they are not the role revealer)

I changed my mind mid-post.
Fair enough :P. (I was doing an essay yesterday, due today, and I got 95% of the way through and discovered that I'd just changed my stance on the subject. It happens)

However, my previous reasoning still stands in that we need a lynch. Any thoughts on who that lynch should be, fellow townsfolk? Not really. A huge problem is the fact that many people don't come in very often and therefore don't let anything slip. A perfect cover that many people may or may not be using.
Yeah. Has anyone been especially inactive? We could vote them.
- WarPanda
- Jasonguy
- Dark Sonic
- Dark Ermac

Give or take a few, based on your opinion of "especially inactive". WarPanda, has posted a few times, but not really since I said I acquitted him in my mind.

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FINALLY, concluding this post is an admission.
I am the real investigative role, being a Cop. Kyuubit is probably just a villager. I have no idea why Kyuubit claimed it, (probably to protect the real one)

I KNEW IT!

Or at least, I knew what Kyuubit was, I worked it out some time "today", but I won't say what it is, in case I help the Mafia. The fact that you've shown he's not mafia makes me even more sure I'm right.

Huh. He's made like, three posts total. How the hell did you work anything out?
I'd rather not say in case the Mafia uses my logic to work out who he is

but I need to claim this so that I can tell you this; On all three nights, I have investigated various people and only gotten innocent results. I'm worried I'm the naive cop, but it's not impossible for me to be the insane cop or the normal cop.

maxmatsu wrote:
there is no alterations to the roles (If doc, its normal doc, if cop, its normal cop).

Oh, excellent.
For the record (in case I die tonight, a likely event)
Kyuubit-Innocent It's no surprise you looked into Kyuubit :P
DVDV-Innocent It's always nice to have someone who can testify your innocence :D
Jasonguy-Innocent Why'd you investigate JasonGuy out of curiosity?
No reason. Just someone random.

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Also, the "Sort by" option down the bottom is pretty useful.

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Okay, yeah. I can understand you guys being suspicious of me, with me rarely posting and all that jazz. I'd post more often, but I honestly don't have much to say, and with my less-than-helpful role...

Alright, d'you guys think I should claim? I think I should. Maybe.

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Oh, and... (I guess I may as well double post since everyone else is doing it~) I think you're ignoring the possibility of a godfather~

Specifically, Kyuubit being one.

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I don't have time to do an all vote count right now, but just saying I'm still alive.

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