No ther characters has two tethers to recover which are extremely safe in this game. Even if you get the edgehog, ZSS can Up B again and grab the ledge anyways. Id actually say hat the Brawl Tether Rule should be applied for Side B and Up B, counting as one tether.

You actually can edgehog ZSS it's just that you guys don't know how and I would really like brawl tether and be able to cancel it like Salem does.

tell us how to edgehog it

my brother salem is coming home in a moment he is a pro ill ask him

Press Ctrl W or Ctrl F4. GG ez pz

when she doesnt have another jump or is far below the stage, just roll at the right time and you'll be invincible and still have ledge ownership. takes prediction bc you need to know when the upB is coming out.

And if ZSS is about midheight you can cover the first tether via rolling, but she still gets the second Up B to snap to ledge. How to you edgeguard that one?

You have to time the first roll properly, then grab the edge again I think. You can either time your ledge invinc during the edgegrab window, or grab in advance and roll/attack/stand during her edgegrab timing.

But if she has her second jump then good luck with that lol

I appreciate the responses, but I want to know what Kyoz has to say about it as well
so far I've already known about these windows and rolling since I've done it to him before, but he seems to imply he knows another way to edgehog ZSS and he seems unwilling to let everyone know about it.

You gotta grab the ledge as soon as ZSS' UpB animation starts, do not roll during the animation then when the second one starts you roll. Sorry for the late response, I forgot about this. I'm gonna regret giving out this information lmao.

ah right okay. I already knew/have seen people do this. pretty much what I expected you to write.
thing is though, the timing to do it properly is either too strict, or the online mode delay makes it difficult.

That sounds kinda hard to time, because we have like 10 frames of ledge time.

Zss beginners cant use her up b as an attack, I've seen that first hand.

I don't lag tho

Well, theres always the fix 3 frame lag. Gotta keep that in mind.