who wants to play as a girl? f**

went to a tournament today
32 people, double elimination, didn't drop a single set
played Sheik/Cloud but mostly Sheik

Shiek is a character I am trying to learn to actually. I know she gets made fun of alot because of her fair and needles but she's an interesting character to say the least.

Who makes fun of her?

@Kuro
What was the prize?

I am thinking about picking Yoshi back up after my friend keeps kicking a** with him.

$50 gamestop gift card
it was free to enter so

Nobody makes fun of her. It's just she's really boring to watch imo. Especially when all the player does is needle camp.

If anything, people get annoyed with her because of Needles and Fair

use dedede instead

so i am trying to main pit any tips? also i gotta get used to button jumping instead up analog

With Pit, use down throw into forward or up air, though you can use running up smash. Use aerials at high percentages or when running up smash can't be connected with anymore after down throw. Pit's combo game isn't really that great when compared to certain other characters.

Don't spam side special because it will become predictable, its not really great as a KO move until over 115%.

Use arrows to force your opponent to approach, to camp or to edge guard them. With edge guarding trying to use multiple fairs to edge guard them, don't try to over use the down air spike. Using Down special is also good, depending on the opponent and how they recover.

When you try to recover, be careful, Pit takes a while to grab the ledge when you are using his mid air jumps. This will leave you open to get spiked or hit by a strong KO move. So try to angle your up special to sweet spot the ledge. Use side special to go for the ledge, try to position yourself so that you are in range of it and you will sweet spot it. If you don't do this, their are a few things that will happen. You will miss the ledge and receive the move's long ending lag, that in a few cases, can result in your death. Though this case depends on if you have a lot of jumps left and if Pit's up special can reach far enough. Second case is that you land back on stage. This works as a surprise, especially when someone tries to attack you. However, constantly doing this will allow the opponent to punish you. If you land on stage while using side special, you will slide on stage, which will leave you open to an attack. This also happens if you try to do this and the move ends or the opponent attacks right before the super armor starts or they will grab you out of the move.

Try to play safe most of the time, but when an opponent leaves themselves open, then go in because Pit is good at getting in when the opponent messes up.

In terms of kill moves, forward smash and back air are his most reliable kill moves. Forward throw kills at high percentages near the ledge. Up smash kills, but make sure the opponent is over you because most of the time, it will miss when the opponent is on the side of you. Down smash only kills very rarely so its best for racking up damage or to read rolls. As I said, side special doesn't really kill until much higher percentages, above 115%. It's good for reading rolls, counter attacking or punishing the opponent, but isn't that great of a move to use since it can be so easily punished.

Edit: I added somethings and fixed my wording, hope this helps.

A lot of people say that well if your going to use shiek all you need are needles and fair. Which is wrong and stupid because there is more to her than that. People say because her fair can send people across the stage. And she can camp with needles.
I pretty sure saw a video with someone playing with shiek and all they were doing where fairing and needles.

Lol that's funny, fair doesn't send you across the stage like it does in Melee, you have to constantly fair.

That's not really true, probably against bad players, but that was true then ZeRo would just be doing that all that.

Bowser combos

Those up throw bowser combos tho have you been hearing that there people who are calling people bowserfrauds(people who play bowser because of the patch).

If that's true, then people are just becoming more silly about low tiers character becoming better. I m glad Bowser is getting buffed, even though he was considered mid tier before, him being able to combo more is not a problem.

Although that isn't necessarily true, that doesn't stop fair and needles from being some of her best tools. One can even argue that some MUs can be reliant on those two moves, but for the most part fair and needles are incredible moves but it isn't all that Sheik has that makes her the best in the game.

her fair and needles are way too good lol
i don't mind though but i'm biased