Hax would love this.

lmfao....

so much misinformation in such a short post

Fox is probably the least polarizing character among the top tier. In fact, the popularity of space animals is a large part of why many low tiers are usable. Sheik is the real reason so many lower tiers are kept down.

60% of players play fox?? are you joking? it's like 20-25%. He's a super fast, fun, exciting character. He's probably not even the best tournament choice.

Amsa loses to PLAYERS who are able to exploit Yoshi's weaknesses, not characters. Pretty much any of the top tier characters can do it just fine, it's just that most players aren't so good at abusing the weaknesses of worse characters.

Amsa is no where near breaking into top 6 and Fox has nothing to do with it.

Which Final Destination design do you guys like the most?

melee fd forever baby

yeah this

Brawl and SSB4 are overdesigned (SSB4 especially lmao what the f*** is that) and the 64 one isn't even an actual stage

Plus purple is the best colour so it all works out

I dunno why, but the SSB4 Final Destination reminds me of the Soul Calibur/Soul Edge thing Namco does.

It probably reminds you of that because that's what it looks like

melee fd is da bes.

For SSB4 final destination... It looks like the planet and the star are way too close to each other to make sense. but I definitely like its BG the most, as for the actual stage design... melee.

It kinda looks like something of out Code Geass if you ask me.

You're just wrong. Sheik is the limiting factor for low tiers. This is a consensus opinion by pretty much everyone who knows what they're talking about. I'm not going to go into gameplay reasons because I don't think there's much of a point here.

"For one, offensively they're uncontested and for some reason allot of melee players are hyper offensive." what does this have to do with anything lmao

Amsa beat a tilting m2k - he would have beat any character playing the way m2k did. Keep in mind that m2k has 3 mains that he plays pretty much equally well, and one of them is fox. Actually, he even tried it in the last game! And he still lost!

Your conclusions are basically being clouded by bias and inability to actually analyse the game or look at results critically.

...what? all I'm doing is judging the scene by what is observed... Imo M2Ks sheik is better than his fox- aMSa gets his a** handed to him by high level fox players in general- I've barely seen a sheik in top8 outside of M2K for quite some time now and even though lower tiers are more prevalent I still don't see them placing too well in "major" tournaments all the same. I don't know how I'd come too the conclusion that lower tiered characters don't succeed or aren't picked mostly because of sheiks by looking at the previous tournament results critically.

....btw how does armada double jump into Nair without going downwards? ...and is it possible in PM?

Do you think M2K's fox is worse than colbol's fox? or Lucky's? Amsa lost convincingly to both of those, but won against m2k's. Pretty obvious that the character matchup was not the deciding factor.

You're not looking at tournament results critically at all. Sheik has fewer players and m2k is the only top level one, so obviously he'll be the only one in top 8. And since when did you have to place top 8 to completely shut down a character? Many low tiers have such a bad matchup with sheik that they're not pickable in the first place, and those that try usually lose before you even get a chance to see them. You can win by straight up playing better than the other guy, but that doesn't change much.

But seriously I can't even believe that I'm having to convince someone that sheik isn't the top pick against low tiers. It's honestly ludicrous if you know anything about the game. You're making huge conclusions based on little to no game knowledge and a really flawed analysis of a small sample size of games.