Honestly i'm glad we cloud since litereallyi the only non dlc swordfighter i can even use is shulk, also i honestly find it silly for people to complain about humans, when a lot of games has nothing but humans and yet still are very unique, even some games have had almost nonthing but swordsmen have been done, it's one of those over 1000 uses kind of thing imo.

Most FE characters have counters (all but one?) but more counter characters exist than FE characters. There's a lot of them actually... like one fifth of the entire roster or something?

The thing that I am curious of the most is the direct in december that is what is going to blow me. I sure cloud will be a fine DLC character there hasn't been any DLC characters that have been terrible.

Tid please tell me you didn't just say casual players can't tell the difference between characters

Sword users are not an issue. They are diverse. They all play differently. They're a minority compared to the 70% of fist fighters in the game. So they look humanoid, so what? That's their design. You don't have to like it, but it's not a bad thing that they aren't super cartoony like Mario.

While I think Tid is exaggerating, I also think you're giving ultracasuals too much credit. They don't give a s*** about the Fire Emblem cast so those characters are all likely to register as "anime swordsman" (Shulk has a slight advantage as "anime swordsman with the lightsaber")

I don't think anyone would argue that Link and Cloud aren't immediately recognizable to even ultracasuals, though

In reality the issue seems a lot bigger than it is because of the inflated Fire Emblem cast

i didnt say anywhere in my post that casual players couldnt tell characters apart, almost noone on this page can read

Weren't you talking about how casuals would be able to notice the finer details of characters wielding weapons ie swords, and they wouldn't be able to notice the proper differences between them?

I think Tid is saying that its one thing to have a group of swordmen with similar moves, but its another thing to have similar moves and similar traits in there appearances. This is something that anyone that "just plays the game because its on the shelf" wouldn't tell the difference between. I agree with this, you can have characters who swing a sword the same way, but if they all look the same then there isn't any uniqueness visually either. Simply put, if we get another swordsman he/she should be in the cartoony category with Toon Link instead of the realistic category like the others.

That Said, I thought it was cool to see Square Enix get a rep, even though I was kinda hoping for Sora or Chrono. My sisters love everything Kingdom Heart/Final Fantasy related so hopefully I can con them into paying the 6$-7$ needed to get him and that frigging awesome stage.

I'm both excited about the direct and sad

Why

this is the closest to what i actually said, but i never said anyone couldn't tell the difference between the characters, i have no idea where everyone got that from:


i just said it makes playing as any of them feel less cool and unique

How though. It's just how they're designed. Their own design doesn't take away anything from them.

it does if there are lots of characters in the game with similar designs and styles...
....that's how being unique works??????

don't worry tid I understood what you actually said

i missed the discussion about this a couple pages ago but

Cloud is definitely the better rep than Chrono imo. Cloud's the face of JRPGs or possibly even RPGs in general. Chrono Trigger was a great game but it didn't really define RPGs like FF7 did.