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Verb
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you're not talking to the thirteen-year-old emo boy though Metroid isn't a series famous for its vast array of interesting and notable characters, because it doesn't have one. Not that it needs it. It's a series famous for its open exploration and eerie game feel, the sort that makes you feel alone when playing the games. I would say that a bevy of Metroid-themed stages (like Brawl had) would be a more prudent form of representation for the Metroid universe. And Ridley is too big, shrinking him down to be fair wouldn't be fun or cool, etc. etc. etc.
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Lord doughnut
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 |  |  |  | Verb wrote: Right. The majority of people who play any Smash, though, are casual players. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But these people obviously don't care about the technical aspects of the games, and they just view clones as slapped together laziness built to look unique aesthetically, but uses the same animations. They don't care if you're supposed to use her completely different. And really, I don't think they should be pressured or forced to. It's a game. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, back when Brawl was being developed, didn't Sakurai say something about making an effort not to have any clone characters in that game (and gave us semi-cones instead)? I know Brawl's done and over with, but would this sort of thing not count as going back on his word? Because to that end, I could totally see why people are upset. |  |  |  |  |
Dude a lot of people go back on their word. *cough* George Lucas*cough* Well it doesn't matter at this point, Lucina is already in the game and there is nothing we can do about it.
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Verb
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Doesn't make it right. But in this case, I don't care that Sakurai sort of lied, because I'm cool with clone characters.
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Geno
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Just because he maybe (?) eluded to wanting less clones for brawl doesn't mean it's the same for smash 4. He also said during brawl's development that villager and miis would never fit in to smash. Did he betray us lol
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:37 pm |
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kb
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sakurai lied people died
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:38 pm |
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Verb
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Apparently Sakurai said nothing of the sort. My bad. I wasn't entirely sure he said it to begin with, it was just a rumor that spread fast during that time.
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natedoesthings
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People just need to stop believing in the "there's only this many character slots so whoever takes it up makes it less likely for MY character to be in." Just, stop. STOP. Nobody and I mean NOBODY besides the development team knows who or what is going into the game. There is no such thing as someone "wasting a spot" or "replacing" another character. If Sakurai wants something in the game, he'll put it in there. Only he knows what the limit is. There is literally NO reason to debate a character or feature from a certain franchise deserving more things by how much it sells or how popular something is, it clearly doesn't matter from what we've seen of the game so far. But of course, if there's always something to complain about, people will complain.
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Reix
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He looked like this in his latest appearance: show Little weird they went back on that. This looks a bit more Nintendo-y. This makes me wonder what his future might be. Saki says this isn't a guarantee for anything, but Mac has leveled up. totally gonna leave this here...: show
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Geno
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YESSSS THISSSSSSSS QTF The dumbest argument ever, and it runs rampant in the smash bros fandom.
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:54 pm |
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Verb
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in case this is in any way directed at me I was never a part of that "slot" camp. I learned about how that stuff works back in Brawl. I don't think any characters "deserve" to be in more than others based solely on their game sales. I was just trying to say that it made sense to me that they'd use such a criterion if they actually did. but yeah you're right if i don't like something i'm gonna complain about it regardless of any silver lining that may be found the imaginary character roster "slots" are not one of those things
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kb
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Kurodyne
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didn't kyuub make that same exact argument you have to be a moron to not notice you just used the same argument that the person came up with
also there's a world of difference between wanting ridley and thinking ridley will be in look ridley is totally cool in my book but i doubt he could be added without looking goofy
and a lot of ridley supporters make the dumbest arguments "the wings could just not have a hitbox" "his tail could be coiled around him" "he's as big as samus in metroid NES"
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natedoesthings
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I could care less if you joke about it, go ahead but I just needed to get that out there because the people who talk about that stuff seriously need to wake the f*** up and realize how selfish and stupid they're being.
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:51 pm |
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kb
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selfish
what
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Deciton_Reven
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I think the biggest they could make a character would be somewhere around twice the size of Bowser. A big character could and would definitely have an interesting playstyle, while having the same flaw huge characters in all the other fighting games (and Super Mushroom'd characters) have, they get juggled to death. It's not like Giga Bowser wasn't a thing, either.
Not that these arguments counter anything, per say, just my own opinion.
And on the whole Fire Emblem rep thing, lets be honest, they wanted to make a challenge where Lucina fights Marth, and they needed a female rep. (And, for some reason said Lyn wouldn't be a good choice, probably because of the first thing.) But I'm fine with all that, the thing that really bothers me is all the swordsmen. Hello, it was called the weapon triangle for a reason. At least Lyn had an alt weapon like Robin has.
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