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Geno wrote:
I must admit, I completely agree with Tid,

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Geno wrote:
Why even bother arguing over the timeless RELIGION vs SCIENCE debate? It's useless, as both sides are hardheaded. I must admit, I completely agree with Tid, but i'm not going to dismiss any viewpoints.

I wasn't arguing over the timeless RELIGION vs SCIENCE debate, since it is only viewed as a debate in the minds of fundamentalists and I don't happen to be one. Other people are open to a different, more complex relation between the two.

I also don't intend to have that complex debate here either, but if people bring it up, be my guest. But it does not have much to do with the original topic, which was about scientism.

But I could make countless posts on what I think is wrong with this view, but it would be called religiously motivated anyway. So I will just post an explanation by an atheist physicist that is also far superior to what I am likely to produce:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2010/09/0 ... lationship

Finally, a small rectification, I mentioned general relativity relates spacetime and the universe in a previous post, but of course general relativity breaks down when quantum gravity comes into play. What I meant to say is more nuanced, that is that general relativity has to be a special case of the underlying theory (if it exists) that combines quantum theory with general relativity theory, making it rather likely that such a theory would have in similar fashion relations between spacetime and the universe that could be mathematically quite different but should produce rather the same result for 'everyday' scales.

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