Okay, let's have a serious discussion instead of an... Argument or whatever it was I was having with Angel please. I enjoy actual debates ^_^
So anyway
I sort of see what you mean, but as an animator, I still come from somewhere.
Where did God come from?

So, basically, it's a double standard? To assume that the matter was always there doesn't work. But to assume God was, works.

Cool story bro.

If time is a creation of God, therefore God doesn't have to follow the laws of time which means that for God to have a past, (which would include creation) there would have to be chronological order which requires time.

That has nothing to do with what he said.

Why does God have this power? How did he create time?

yes it does, for God to have come from somewhere, there would have to be a past for him to come from. Since God made time, there could not have been a past for God to come from and thus, God didn't come from anywhere

OK, so he came from no where. So, he can't be there. So he doesn't exist.

That was easy.

Yes but how did he make time?
How does he have this power?

Look, I don't pretend to completely understand it either however God probably started (if I can use that word) with them

Humans don't fully understand the world
Humans don't fully understand God

That said, does anyone not believe in the world just because there are some questions about it we can't get the answer to?

Also Belth, can you honestly say that you believe that to be sound reasoning?

Because it is.
I'm just saying.
You can't explain where God comes from.
You can't explain where the Big Bang came from.
However, choosing the second path opens up more possibilities as to what can be explained with solid fact and proof, as opposed to the first, which relies entirely on faith.
Second one is sounding a lot more promising.

how is that not?

He came from no where. If he didn't come from anywhere, he can't be here. If he isn't here, he doesn't exist.

Also, you only say "humans don't understand God" because you have no logical explanations.


Also, "not believe in the world" I assume by "world" you're referring to "Earth" We are on Earth, we have seen Earth, so we know it's there. If we know it's there, we can believe in it.

And actually
Come to think of it if we just said we don't understand the world, we don't understand God, and thought that as valid reasoning to assume that God created everything, then we'd of stopped trying to work out what actually happened and the Human Race would be currently suffering a bad case of "I'm not going anywhere".

I think that the big bang exists: it comes from God

Also if religion relies solely on faith then it's a rubbish religion.

The fact that most of what happened to the Jews happened (parting of the Red Sea, knocking down Jerico, etc.)
The fact that Jesus was proven to exist (as one person too Tid) and that it's proven that he did 'wondrous' things and just about everything written in the gospels has been recorded by non-Christian sources
The fact that I can't find a single loop hole in the whole bible that doesn't have a rational, logical answer
The fact that it makes sense

All of these things point me to Christianity

Look, if there was no form of god, where did creatures come from? Even if evolution was true, who made what started us?

We still study Science and try to gain an understanding about the world around us
We still study God and therefore gain an understanding about the world around us