I hit with it almost all the time.. Usually to catch opponent from a roll or a tech.. its too easy

If you still are surprised that it can hit you even if you are not on the same platform, then thats not a problem of the character. And if Lloyd goes after you with Sonic Thrust if you jump, just jump away from him and use your airdodge if neccessary. Most people I fight jump towards me, get punished and then either complain or ragequit. That is just so stupid...

I mostly use Sonic Thrust as a tech chase.

So apparently Tiger Blade now has landing lag.

Also no Rising Falcon, so he kinda lost a little bit of recovery.

I don't really know in which position will Lloyd end up.

What do you mean with "No Rising Falcon"? Was it removed completely or is it just another move? He needs RF, it aids his recovery so well. Strike that and you get Little Macs recovery. Ok, not that bad, but Tiger Blade alone doesnt do anything. Yeah, Im a bit salty, but thats just my opinion.

From what I saw, they changed his DAir for another move (One where he swings both oh his swords under him).

No God please no........

WHYYYYYYYYYY??????


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Back to topic: So, Rising Falcon is now history, did he get other moveset changes? I think he has a new DTilt, but I dont know for sure. And now with RF gone, did Tiger Blade seem to go higher? Is TB-Autocancel still lagless or do you have landing lag now? Im afraid that his glass cannon aspects turn him more into glass than into a cannon. Right now, this is what it looks like for me.

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Yeah, Im overdoing it... But Im just afraid that he loses those things that make him good. I dont want a glass cannon without the cannon part, that is all.

Tiger Blade has landing lag. FTilt has two hits now. DTilt is different. DAir two.

That's what I saw

trust me when i say replacing rising falcon with a reliable lingering-hitboxed attack that kills floaties at 80% is not taking the cannon out of glass cannon

Ok, Im quiet now... My main complaint is the recovery part, as RF aids Lloyd in so many ways if he tries to come back onstage. Propably should have said this Is Tiger Blade still with this insanely good ledge sweetspot that makes me fall down if Im like 5 pixels away from the ledge?

I love air dodging but then having it still hit me cause the move has a hit box duration of eternity makes me salty. This happens with a lot of Lloyd's moves, like beast, sword rain, sonic thrust, side tilt, dash attack... -.-

I dont know if this has been done yet, but I suggest that the Solar Blade be converted to his Dthrow (with less knockback) and give him a more conventional dsmash that uses both of his swords.
Not enough taking advantage of his dual wielding imo.