Even though I don't play Brawl competitively, I remember hearing something about MK vs. ROB MU. I heard that MK rapes him. Also, ROB is mid tier, so plenty of characters beat him.

@Smasherlink Firebrand:
Everything you said was wrong, however you said that Link has the best edgeguarding in Melee, which is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. If anything, Peach and Jigglypuff have the best edgeguarding in Melee because once they get you offstage, you have very little chance of coming back.

Dude. I didn't need any criticism here. I am just telling you what characters can do if you think down to the wire. Sure, Link can have some disadvantages, but you have to at least TRY to use these tactics. If you wanna be mean about it, go to my PM, or don't talk at all.

And yeah, like TAC3 said, I already told them the truth. Although you weren't here.

@TAC3: I also admitted I AM NOT THE BEST! I am decent.

lol, I was talking about what you thought of the character, not your skills as a player.

Well, I just want them to know what I thought, not for them to be mean about it and just start criticism, though.

At least I am not that rude anymore (since I saw the therapist).

BTW, guys, what I say, is what I say as a casual player. I want people to know what I experienced in the game when fighting others like me.

no matter what you post on this website, expect people to make comments bout it, always finding something wrong with it so that they can "be mean" to you.

no your post does not have anything down to the wire, you have very vague and quite often questionable statements with misused terms and you're saying it as fact? i have played my fair share of link in all 3 games, and i have to say i agree wholeheartedly with the general consensus of link in all 3 games. he has some upsides, some combos, hell people can beat strong players with him, but being high on the tier list requires consistency, results, and the numbers (hitbox/hurtbox and frame data) to back it up.

pretty much nothing in your post has honestly anything valid in it. it's stupid to say that link's nair is a wall of pain, because by that standard every character with a sexkick nair has a wall of pain (which isn't true). it's stupid to say that link has the "best edgehog/edgeguard in the game" because that simply ISN'T TRUE, many characters have many STRONGER options than link when it comes to stopping players from returning to the ledge and from the ledge.

i was probably pretty harsh with my criticisms, and i apologize, but seriously dude if you want to prove that link is the best you're going to need proof. saying that "things work when i do them" really holds no weight when the series has been out for like what, 20 years now? and link hasn't been hitting first place in really any major tournament or even with any strong standing (despite there being some extremely strong link mains).

edit: even if you're looking at the game from a casual perspective, you have to at some point acknowledge that people have tried and tried to make every character viable. there have been pichu mains who have been really good at pichu but limited by character weaknesses and unable to win tournaments, and likewise there are EXTREMELY strong link mains who have tried every single option they could but could not make him work.

No offense, but if you're a casual player, then you probably aren't decent in the slightest.

If you want to prove how good link is, then go to a tournament and win with him.

here is an example of a good link player to get you started:

it hasn't even been 15 years dude lmao

dude im so bad at math

for whatever reason i took melee's 12 years, added brawl's 5 years (hurrrrr) and ssb64's 3 years before melee

imretarded

Link has been consistently bad in all smash games, yeah. It's not even debateable.

If Luigi is in Smash U, I hope they make him at least decent. He was only "good" in Melee.

What other bad characters do you guys want to see buffed?

http://www.ssbwiki.com/Brazilian_tier_list
Who here's Brazilian, LOL.

@Zapperix: I want to see Fox to get buffed.

It isn't about you being rude, but you by being so denial, that's the thing everyone have against you apparently.

Just accept as true the facts that most of us gives credits to, there's no reason to not when the proofs and reasons are already present, :S

Okay, I'll start accepting...
I guess some people do have points...

Why would you want to see Fox get buffed? He's never been bad at all.

Remember, I said bad characters.