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Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

How easy he is to combo. He doesn't have any fast options to escape certain combos, such as Ryu's.

His recovery, although long distance, is predictable. This is mostly looking at his horizontal recovery, Flare Blitz being predictable and damaging to Charizard while leaving him open.

However, Fly isn't great either. It gives you armor during the ascent, but if you go in the direction you didn't want to go in, YOU'RE DEAD. Its similar to how Luigi's up special was in Melee, you get little to nor horizontal movement after you have performed the move. You get little movement behind you after Charizard finishes the move, thus he falls to his death.

His combo game is average cause he just mainly has down throw. He can use down tilt into grab, but that's mainly it.

He doesn't really have much of approach outside of flame thrower, but I try to space bair and nair to help with this.

Though after the buffs, I would see him as a mid tier character.

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Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

The fact that he can no longer switch to either Squirtle or Ivysaur.

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Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

The fact that he can no longer switch to either Squirtle or Ivysaur.

What.

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Jokes aside, I think the reason Charizard sucks so much it's because of how subpar his recovery is.

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Kirb-Star wrote:
Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

The fact that he can no longer switch to either Squirtle or Ivysaur.

it's funny you say that because Ivysaur was the worst of the three lmao

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
Kirb-Star wrote:
Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

The fact that he can no longer switch to either Squirtle or Ivysaur.

it's funny you say that because Ivysaur was the worst of the three lmao


What can you tell me about competetive Squirtle, Kuro?

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Steven wrote:
Kuro Kagami wrote:
Kirb-Star wrote:
Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

The fact that he can no longer switch to either Squirtle or Ivysaur.

it's funny you say that because Ivysaur was the worst of the three lmao


What can you tell me about competetive Squirtle, Kuro?

that sounds sarcastic but i'm bored so i'll take the bait anyway.

i don't know too much about Pokemon Trainer or competitive Brawl in general

i just know that Squirtle was the best of the Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon and that Ivysaur was the worst. Squirtle also received less knockback from fire attacks and Ivysaur received more. But Ivysaur resisted water attacks (which are very rare) and Squirtle was weak to grass attacks (which are exclusive to Ivysaur) which made it even worse.

Squirtle also had good frame data from what I remember and he was pretty small so he was a b**** to hit too


project M squirtle is a meme in the PM community because he has so much exclusive tech and they all name it silly stuff like shellsliding, shellshocking, shell slinging, hydroplaning, hydro pivoting, and hydro crawling.

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Kuro Kagami wrote:
Steven wrote:
Kuro Kagami wrote:
Kirb-Star wrote:
Cruisin wrote:
What makes Charizard so bad?

The fact that he can no longer switch to either Squirtle or Ivysaur.

it's funny you say that because Ivysaur was the worst of the three lmao


What can you tell me about competetive Squirtle, Kuro?

that sounds sarcastic but i'm bored so i'll take the bait anyway.

i don't know too much about Pokemon Trainer or competitive Brawl in general

i just know that Squirtle was the best of the Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon and that Ivysaur was the worst. Squirtle also received less knockback from fire attacks and Ivysaur received more. But Ivysaur resisted water attacks (which are very rare) and Squirtle was weak to grass attacks (which are exclusive to Ivysaur) which made it even worse.

Squirtle also had good frame data from what I remember and he was pretty small so he was a b**** to hit too


project M squirtle is a meme in the PM community because he has so much exclusive tech and they all name it silly stuff like shellsliding, shellshocking, shell slinging, hydroplaning, hydro pivoting, and hydro crawling.


Nah I was genuinely curious since you don't hear too much about the little guy. Thank you for the info.

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Kuro tell me how amazing Jiggs is in smash 4. :jigglypuff:

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squirtle is cool as f*** and i'm still a little disappointed we didn't get him as dlc

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as someone who has channeled their autism to complete the national dex twice in gen 6, i really do not think we need another Pokemon character

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I don't give a f*** how many pokemon there are as long as they're fun & cool

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I don't give a f*** how many pokemon there are as long as they're fun & cool


Most of them are due to the Pokémon Types and their unique bodies, abilities and mannnerisms. A lot of pokémon would work really well in Smash. Gengar would be hella sweet.

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Hell yeah dude

How f*** cool would Galvantula be

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squirtle is one of those characters that i wouldn't be mad and probably would enjoy if they got in but i still don't think they should be in

same boat as Corrin, Roy, Dark Pit, Lucina, Doc, and Lucas

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