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I don't really have big tips but here's one.
You might want to switch to auto dashing and use multiple dash attacks and then a side B. Good damage and it kills.

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135 wrote:
In v.0.9a it was like,

"Everyone got Nerfed!! This game has no Combo!"

In v.0.9b, which came with quite a bit of Nerfs, it's like,

"DK is broken help lol"
"Link is broken help lol"
"Zamus is broken help lol"
"MetaKnight is the strongest character help lol"
"Tails is broken help lol"
"BM is broken help lol"
"Zelda is S-Tier."
"Lloyd is SS-Tier help lol"
"Ichigo is broken help lol"


I'm so glad someone else actually noticed this. Sure Lloyd is super safe and easy to use, but think about how many characters can counter him. BM can easily use his stop and punish the hell out of him. Lloyd can punish BM by throwing n specs as bait/pressure and then rushing in.
That's just one example. IMO, there needs some balancing, sure. But aslong as there are ways to counter characters with the ones you choose to play with and vice versa, why complain all the time?

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TheHyuga360 wrote:
135 wrote:
In v.0.9a it was like,

"Everyone got Nerfed!! This game has no Combo!"

In v.0.9b, which came with quite a bit of Nerfs, it's like,

"DK is broken help lol"
"Link is broken help lol"
"Zamus is broken help lol"
"MetaKnight is the strongest character help lol"
"Tails is broken help lol"
"BM is broken help lol"
"Zelda is S-Tier."
"Lloyd is SS-Tier help lol"
"Ichigo is broken help lol"


I'm so glad someone else actually noticed this. Sure Lloyd is super safe and easy to use, but think about how many characters can counter him. BM can easily use his stop and punish the hell out of him. Lloyd can punish BM by throwing n specs as bait/pressure and then rushing in.
That's just one example. IMO, there needs some balancing, sure. But aslong as there are ways to counter characters with the ones you choose to play with and vice versa, why complain all the time?


Lloyd is mostly protected by input lag online. People shouldn't base all of their arguments on that one specific mode. Because it has lag, it slows that reaction timing, and can put people of with their timing for a certain move, ect.
And Lloyd can throw out hundreds of hitboxes in lag. Which makes him much better online. (And seriously i thought Lloyd was bad at recovering. Why can he recover so well? Is it a glitch?)

All in all, people keep complaining about things without thinking too much about the MU or other things. But seriously DK's neutral be is actually broken, TSON confirmed it.

I'm not happy N95 can beat my Marth at all...

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I actually did a perfect (no damage) 3-stock with Lloyd against Ichigo today. PM me on how to attach the replay file and I'll show it to you other Tales of Symphonia fans :D

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I actually did a perfect (no damage) 3-stock with Lloyd against Ichigo today. PM me on how to attach the replay file and I'll show it to you other Tales of Symphonia fans :D

CPU??? or an actual player?

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Level 9 CPU, no items, no altered settings.

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Level 9 CPU, no items, no altered settings.

Then it doesn't matter.
The CPU's are virtually braindead so it's not much of an accomplishment, since they fall for the dumbest of things.

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Level 9 CPU, no items, no altered settings.

>bragging
>playing against a CPU
>mfw

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Meyguhmein wrote:
Flamingpotato wrote:
Level 9 CPU, no items, no altered settings.

>bragging
>playing against a CPU
>mfw

Maymay arrows smh.

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That's one of the points I was trying to make. I shouldn't be able to do a perfect run as easily as I did. I really wish the CPUs were a bit smarter.

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That's one of the points I was trying to make. I shouldn't be able to do a perfect run as easily as I did. I really wish the CPUs were a bit smarter.

Smart as in what? ssb64 special-spamming, melee cheapness, brawl lack of useful tactics, or ssb4 input-reading-shield spamming?

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I can bthrow -> dair basically 100% of the time against a CPU because most of the characters jump predictably and don't attack or mix up their recovery. That's pretty stupid.

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Flamingpotato wrote:
That's one of the points I was trying to make. I shouldn't be able to do a perfect run as easily as I did. I really wish the CPUs were a bit smarter.

Smart as in what? ssb64 special-spamming, melee cheapness, brawl lack of useful tactics, or ssb4 input-reading-shield spamming?

*Melee jabbing
*Brawl and SSB4 input-reading-shield spamming

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135 wrote:
In v.0.9a it was like,

"Everyone got Nerfed!! This game has no Combo!"

In v.0.9b, which came with quite a bit of Nerfs, it's like,

"DK is broken help lol"
"Link is broken help lol"
"Zamus is broken help lol"
"MetaKnight is the strongest character help lol"
"Tails is broken help lol"
"BM is broken help lol"
"Zelda is S-Tier."
"Lloyd is SS-Tier help lol"
"Ichigo is broken help lol"

I don't think you can have a third of the cast be "broken" lol
Unless IDK, it's like Brawl- or something where every character is broken, but then no character is broken. Not saying SSF2 is a balanced one-Tier game, but I think you guys tend to exaggerate quite a bit lol

Like, I can imagine when we get rid of everything people complain of about Lloyd, there'll be a bunch of people saying Lloyd sucks now and got Nerfed too much (and maybe also how SSF2 has no fun noob-friendly character now). Until someone online finds out that he can still Combo very well off his N-Air and Up-B, and we get a bunch of stuff like "Lloyd N-Air Combo too free help lol" :/

We'll Nerf a lot of things you guys have trouble with; it's not like we somehow want the game to be broken. But we'll not nerf everything. As in, for exmple, we won't Nerf Marth's F-Smash just because someone claims they can use it all day without having to think much because it has 1337 range. And we won't Nerf Captain Falcon's F-Air because it can Ko really well and you can Combo into it.

I'm not saying don't criticize balance. Do that, but taking into account that that meta-game is still a baby, and has room to grow. Like, don't call the Fox-Marth Match-Up 100 - 0 because your Fox managed to beat a couple of Marths online by playing run-away and using Neutral-B to rack up 500% damage. And don't say it's 0 - 100 because your Marth's U-Throw can Combo so well you "feel bad for using it". Take a deep breath; don't overreact.

(Not aiming this at any particular person or post. Just addressing a particular trend that seems to be around these days.)


I like criticize.

I also don't like to overreact, which I may do from time to time. Heard you were one of the balancers in this game, correct?

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Don't wanna sway too offtopic but just pointing it out there that CPU is more challenging than alot of players online.

Also, I mentioned a while back that I was thinking of making an in-depth Lloyd guide. After seeing how good he is in 9b, should one still be made?

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