I'd have gone with Mr G&W, The snapping turtles, the Chef, Spitball Sparky, and the Native American

We already have five G&W characters.





To get back on topic, though, I'm running out of characters to think of other than all the usual suspects.

Mickey Mouse was also a character on there.

I can't really agree with that large amount of Smash 4 newcomers coming in and Lip's inclusion but, overall a good list

Thank you for the feedback. I can agree that the amount of SSB4 Newcomers in this list will not make it, possibly outside of Little Mac or Villager.

Hoopa Unbound for SSF2!

As far as Pokemon go, the only ones I see us getting are Lucario and Mewtwo.

DLC is supposed to be a thing(hopefully) so it's possible, Hoopa and Hawlucha are like the best Pokemon to come out of the last generation, and hoopa fits the role of Lucario and Mewtwo .

Totally agree. When and if DLC becomes a thing, I could see it being veterans from Smash games who did not make the initial roster and newcomers from all across the globe.

Can't we just get a character maker in the final game so we don't have to deal with these silly "____character should/should not get in the roster" discussions.

As nice as that would be, it's barely even possible in a 3D game let alone a sprite-based game.

Besides, even if it did happen, it wouldn't help with characters that shouldn't be in.
I mean, we have to be careful about who we leave out, or...

*heavy sigh*

Are Snivy, Petey and Porky really that bad? They're definitely not my first choices for a Smash game, but they wouldn't stand out nearly as much as Ristar, Weegee, and Phoenix Wright.

We get it, you hate Crusade, could you seriously stop s*** on it every time you can?
Besides, I'm pretty sure it would be a lot easier to make a concept like this in a 2D game. Of course making a character in such a system would require as much effort as the Devs had when designing every character in the game. PSA mods aren't easy to make in Brawl hacking either.
The advantage of such a system is that anyone could be in this game, without having to live with those darn roster restrictions such as "only ___ number of characters per franchise" or "only characters appearing in nintendo consoles"

Expansion characters haven't completely been deconfirmed, at least. If that's what you meant.
I thought you meant more along the lines of an in-game character creator or something, which really WOULD be impossible.

As for Crusade, I think you're exaggerating how much I complain about it. I may not like the graphics or several of the roster choices, but I've praised other aspects in the past. Really, my biggest concern with it is the memory of the fandom, back in ye olden days when we actually were heated rivals; there's still an echo of distrust lingering, much more than any problem with the game itself.


Porky's kind of justifiable considering he actually has a significant role in his home series unlike Snivy and Petey, but his problem is that his voice acting is hellish.
Ristar and Weegee, I don't really have that much of a problem with; the former's just an odd choice, and the latter's safely hidden away as an easter egg, like Sandbag is with us.
And Phoenix Wright's a very common request for the main games, one I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see showing up here.

Snivy and Petey were the straw that broke the camel's back for me; in my eyes, they're the only truly awful roster choices in SSBC. They're complete nobodies, and a perfect example of how making a roster too big can dilute it to where it's meaningless.
In fact, I'd even go as far as saying Snivy's the primary reason why I don't want any Pokémon newcomers. Out of the 700+ species, only a couple are really important to anyone who's not training them. And Snivy, Sceptile, Hoopa, Zoroark, and Hawlucha ain't among them.

Snivy was one of the starters in Gen V, and likely the only starter in Gen V that wasn't a Base Breaker when the Gen V starters were revealed.
Snivy is also one of the most popular Gen V Pokémon (given how infamous that Gen has been for including the Gear line(Klink, Klaang and Klniklang), the Ice Cream line (Vanilluxe and those oter two I won't bother remembering their names), Garbodor, etc). Snivy was also one of the main Pokémon Ash used in the Pokémon B/W anime.
Trust me, they could have chosen a worse rep for Pokémon, though I agree with you that Petey should have never been in, there were
plenty of Mario characters that would have been better than him (like Rosalina, Bowser Jr, Fawful or even Daisy).

Now, back on SSF2, I thought Expansions were discarded given how the entire Expansion Forums was taken down (which is a shame, because I liked plenty of the characters there), but then I remembered how the F.A.Q. still mentions Expansion Characters.

Btw, the reason why I suggested a character maker it's simply because there are plenty of characters I'd love to play as but are barely likely or would be complete base breakers if they were added in the official roster (Ridley, Adeleine, Megaman X, Pichu, to name a few).
Besides, given how the game is of course not gonna receive any kind of sequel (so the Dev Team doesn't suffer the same as Sakurai with this whole "sequelization" thing) and one of the only ways to keep a game's fanbase alive is by, you guessed it, Mods. See the Smash 4 fanbase for example, after the two final DLC characters were released (not the same as revealed), news started to fade down until in April/May (I can't remember exactly), Smash 4 Mods were revealed and plenty of tutorials, modpacks, etc made the game's fanbase to rise up again. Also, how do you think Project M became a hit despite releasing over 3 years after Brawl's release?
I'm pretty sure the devs want to completely avoid mods and hacking, but it's pretty clear most fans are not pleased with Beta taking so long to come out (not me included), so most of them go hack their games because they're fed up with having to play 0.9b over and over and over and...
Also, let's face it, there are plenty of mods that are actually pretty good. The bad thing? They're mods, unofficial modifications of a great game. And given how many of those modders are actually talented people, wouldn't it be a shame that those people's works are going to waste just because they can't be shared or discussed via Mcleodgaming related sites just because they're modding a game?

Of course, a character maker such as this, were the user imports all the sprites and programs everything of their character would have to be available ONLY after unlocking all characters sans Sandbag