And I can see perfectly that you are using the 'Hitler Built Autobahns'. Basically, this is what it means.
'You did X as scum in the last game I played with you, and you have done it here. Therefore, you are scum.'
And you said:
You're still acting just like you did last game, where you were scum.

You're tied with Ramsey for the first spot.

Scum(S>W)Ramsey & King Arthur, Pathera, 194

I will be answering your post paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraph 1(Introduction and Day 1 discussion)-I'm just curious: Why is there "no point" in making a case until later in the day? When you see stupid things happen in the RVS, no matter who does it, you take it, and then you work with it. Upon that is the basis of scumhunting.
You also can't assume that newbie players who make scumslips are just completely new to the game. Defending a new player solely on the basis of him being new is a very weak argument, after all.

Paragraph 2(Re: my suspicion of King Arthur)-Your entire defense is solely based on the argument that he is new to forum mafia. This makes it seem like buddying if you do not have a stronger argument.

Paragraph 3(Re: my suspicion of Ramsey)-Panthera's Random Voting Post was on Page 6. Ramsey's post where he voted for JC outta nowhere is on Page 8.

Paragraph 4(Re: my suspicion of 194)-While 194 has certainly been putting out a good amount of information for the town, I didn't really like his exchange with JC over the RVS. He's more town to me now though, thanks for pointing it out.

Paragraph 5(Re: my suspicion of Panthera)-It's good to see that someone agrees with me on this.



And even then, things in the RVS could happen that make things interesting.
For example, in MG Mafia All-Stars, I put a second vote on an inactive player in the hope to spur him into action, but that got me suspected by other people.
It's not completely useless to random vote, especially when you can spot dumbtells here and there.

Preedit:
Aha! The meta argument. May I direct you to a logical fallacy known as the "Hitler Buil Autobahns" fallacy.
Your argument against him is solely based on one game where he was scum. For all you know, this could be his town meta, where he plays a very offensive game. That's beside the point though.

Unless you can prove that JC has a significant tendency to be very aggressive only when playing as a mafia member, then you cannot make such an accusation.

I would vote for you, KA, but right now I've got Ramsey's post to analyze.

Prepreedit: Ninja'd by JC.

Oh, I assumed BB was talking about PL's post on page 8 where he quotes a bunch of people randomly voting.

That's not what you were saying at all. You said random votes lead to lynches, even though they don't. the RVS starts discussion, as well as the game, and I believe you're said you're against it.

Simply pointless, just like the bolded part of your post. "If I were against voting at all" and "If I was against all voting" is the same thing. This defense is hasty and crude.

EBWOP: Saying that random votes lead to random lynches.

Answers in bold.

Arthur, do you have any other evidence against JC aside from his meta? What are your reads on everyone else?

Ok, first off. To anyone suspicious of JamesClyde: If you are using meta as your primary argument (which is already silly, but let us ignore that for now), then you should go back and actually read James' posts in Mafia 12. He was lynched at the end of a short Day 1, so that shouldn't take too long. Now, start reading his posts in this game. You should notice a substantial difference. In 12, he makes hilariously nonsensical, baseless accusations. In this game, his arguments have some meat on their bones. Problem is, most people are just disregarding them because they are presented in a similar manner. This makes him an easy scapegoat for the mafias, which is likely why he is attracting votes.


Now, Panthera. Your last post is yet another in a long series that focus solely on self-defense. I have asked you many questions, none of which have been answered. Why is that? Are you stalling for time, hoping that I will forget? You have yet to contribute any positive material, and I feel this is reason enough to Vote: Panthera Leo.


@Ramsey: Next time you post, could you please quote yourself to demonstrate your reasoning for voting JamesClyde? Thanks.

No, but considering how you were the reason I thought JC was scum anyways, you should have asked yourself that question..

Now that I do go and re-read some of JC's posts in 12, I do see a vast difference. As for my reads on everybody else, they all seem like town. When it comes to you, I'm not too sure, as of now.

So you admit that you just bandwagoned my vote on JC with little evidence. And you suspect me based on my semi-serious vote a very long time ago. My vote was intended to spark discussion, hence the "discuss." at the end of it.

Everyone seems town Arthur? Everyone? I find it hard to believe that's actually what you've come up with this entire game.

Ninja'd by TheOneWhoKnocks, but I think this still applies.


Arthur, the issue at hand is not why TheOneWhoKnocks thought that James was scum. We can address it later, but it doesn't matter right now.

Why did you vote JamesClyde? What were your reasons? If you can't answer that, we have a problem.

Yeah, please quote and analyze a post where JC is scummy.
I would like for you to explain why Panthera is null to you. All you're saying right now is "people are too serious".

Well, now you know that people do analyze posts. In fact, you sound over-defensive and over-careful in that bolded part.



Everyone seems town lul.

In all honesty, this post just sounds like he wants to escape trouble by agreeing with a person that seems town.


I shall answer, bit by bit, Blood's argument.



I can assure you that after page 6 people started taking things seriously and actually making accusations against people.
I believe that you are talking about the Ramsey post when you mention jokes. I assure you, it was not a joke. Compare that post to his RVS post against Lightning and you'll know what I mean.



Many newbies who have been town or mafia. Not all newbies who make mistakes are dumbtown, you know. Regardless, you have to notice these things.



I reference page 6 and Panthera's horrible post regarding how we should stop random voting. Things became serious from there, as 194 and JC immediately jumped on Panthera and attacked him. Pretty relevant if you ask me.

Reads:
Town(S>W): Brikmaninoff(very clear scumhunting, good logic), JamesClyde(strong logic, very pressing arguments), Blood(very clear intent), TheOneWhoKnocks(obvious).
Null(Town>Scum): Felipe(one good post but nothing else so far), 194(Blood made me see what he's down), kyuubit(some good posting though needs to analyze more), Lightning, Dephius, Cactus, Thomas, Bonsai(tbh quite useless so far), Shoop(lol no scumhunting).
Scum(S>W): Ramsey, King Arthur, Panthera.

Feel free to lynch anyone from Bonsai onwards. If you need more reasoning/explanation for anyone of my reads, feel free to ask and I will quotestripe till forever.

I personally don't want a lynch at all. Day 1 lynching is risky and will likely end in a townie lynch is what I've discovered while playing mafia on Skype. Judging on the amount of analyzing you guys put into each post, it might me different for forum mafia.

You're still avoiding the question. If you don't want us to be scumhunting on Day 1, what exactly DO you want us to be doing?

I did answer that.



I said I wanted a No Lynch.



Don't make me run around yelling "#YOLO" man. I'll do it.