Nair is to Peach as Knee is to Falcon

I think nair to peach is more like shine to Fox honestly. Falcon can easily get by without using knee, his dair/bair/uair are easy replacements. Without shine Fox loses a huge part of his pressure and combo game, as well as eliminating any form of offstage game.

i just found a ridiculously overpowered tactic that seems to abuse a certain bug. i discovered this by accident... it is both ridiculous, creepy, and powerfull.

1 - pull out a turnip and dash towards your opponent.
2 - throw the turnip. you will be running alongside it.
3 - press neutral b.

see what happens:
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WEEEIRD, isnt it?

what happens, is that when you use Toad on a turnip, it FREEZES, and every time you use toad and touch it, you will perform a counter, that deals up to 26 damage (it might do massive amounts if you hit special turnips, but i didnt have the chance to test it yet). it can stay there frozen indeffinitely, and it also has other tricks... you can grab it again and throw it, but instead of going forward like it would be when thrown normally, it sticks to the air soon as you throw it, remaining, once again, frozen. and now you can, once again, perform infinite and safe toad counters.

better yet, its projectile hitbox priority maintains - it can cancel quite a few of other projectiles without moving! this completely wastes link's arows and bombs - and his boomerang gets hit-lagged because it calculates hits for each and every turnip it touches.

this takes a while to make into a respectable mine - er - turnipfield? but in the long run, it is simply overpowering, since you deprive your opponents from THEIR long range attack, while keeping yours, and - oh, did i mention your turnips also can bounce on frozen turnips? this makes it possible to sometimes have up to 5 turnips bouncing around on the field - also gives you an attack with a massive disjoint, damage per hit, and super-armor - which Peach cant have any other way.



what are your thoughts? i am yet to try this out on human players, but it can be frighteningly challenging to bypass.

Ok, that's super scary. That'd better be fixed in the next patch, otherwise Peach will probably be top tier again.

That's already been discovered. Also, top tier again? According to the BR, Peach was dead last in 0.9a (not saying I agreed with them, but that's how it was).

But did you also hear that she wasn't changed as much as she was last time.

Lol yes, of course I have. People like Tac3 and I are changing people's opinions.

i just found a ridiculously overpowered tactic that seems to abuse a certain bug. i discovered this by accident... it is both ridiculous, creepy, and powerfull.

1 - pull out a turnip and dash towards your opponent.
2 - throw the turnip. you will be running alongside it.
3 - press neutral b.

see what happens:
[ Image ]

WEEEIRD, isnt it?

Ah, That Bug... I got it to happen several times, but in a different way: Sometimes they would get stuck after colliding with the start up of another attack (mostly smashes and specials). It doesn't happen always, but whenever it happens it's kinda annoying. Now, I've got to try it using the method you posted.

Anyways, got a question: Besides edgeguarding an opponent with high damage, for what else is Peach Bomber useful?

The main problems with Peach last demo were the fact that she had low weight and and poor kill potential. Combine that with the fact that the average kill potential for the cast was really high and her bad matchups against the top tiers (lol 0.9a Puff) put her in a pretty bad position. she didn't do that well against the mid tiers either.

This demo fixes most of those bad matchups, she got a bit more kill potential, and a lot of powerful moves (Black Mage's dash attack and U-tilt) got weakened. Its easy to see why she got better. It's the same with Yoshi imo.

Not much tbh: mixups, outprioritizing an opponents attack, but the startup is so long with such little reward its hardly worth it.

I know people were mentioning a need for a new peach sprite a while back. I know that the original creator has made this sprite since the original sheet, and was wondering whether or not to contact the devs about using it in place of his original sprite (the one in the game now). I don't know if he had a full sprite sheet or not, or if he was even willing to make a whole sheet. All I know is what's on this page, haha.

http://hans-460.deviantart.com/art/SSF2 ... -348579450