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Yes. Yes it does, so you want people not not vote against you, hmm?




Vote: Cactus

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Cactus wrote:
I un-voted because if we are to vote on someone, I don't want to be vote for the factor that we may hit a townie, then when Mafia hits another townie, that's 2 townies gone, and a full group of Mafias, So it sets us at a disadvantage even further.
Bro, that's garbage. Your vote was on no lynch. There was zero danger of you being a contributing factor to a townie death. The only reason you removed your vote was because of Felipe's accusation that "anyone voting no lynch is scummy." As mafia, one certainly does not want to look scummy, so you bowed to the pressure and canceled your vote. That in itself can be just as much a sign of new player-itis as it can mafia alignment, but your nonsensical defense tips the scale distinctly on the scumbag side.

Better luck next time, mate.



Oh, by the by, anyone not voting for Cactus is super scummy arcade edition right now.

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Mon May 07, 2012 9:41 am
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Blast it, MG stopped sending me topic reply notifications. Here I thought no one was posting and there are actually a ton of pages full of completely ridiculous arguments.

After reading the last few pages, I've got to say that this is the scummiest I've ever seen Brik.
He's pushing super hard for a lynch that nothing supports. (Except the rest of the players?)
Why is he pushing so hard? Because we've given him much too much of an easy opportunity for a mis lynch here.
I mean, as a Mafia, I guess it's easy to think "Hey, all the townies are pushing for a random lynch on someone who isn't part of my scum-team. Why not support it? With my superior fake reasoning, I shall convince them all to do my bidding!"
Sure, Cactus looks scummy, but on closer examination it's an obvious case of new player-itis rather than scum tell.
Using that argument against Cactus when Brik should have learned by now to differentiate the two just furthers his case. Yes, he tells us at the end of last game that he needs to learn to tell them apart, BUT;
He doesn't even stop to consider the possibility of Cactus being a newb, he just glances at it, immediately denies the possibility, (so that others won't question it) and carries on with his ridiculous logic.

That said, I'm actually willing to lynch Cactus. Why? Believe it or not, but because of Brik it benefits the town either way.

Scenario 1: If Cactus is Mafia, then Brik is a guaranteed innocent, because it's unlikely that he would push so hard to lynch one of his own, and I doubt that he got yet another third party role. This rids of one Mafia, provides our investigators with a night of investigations, and gives us a guaranteed innocent, all of which will help us greatly during Day 2.

Scenario 2: If Cactus is innocent or a third party, Brik is a guaranteed correct lynch for tomorrow. Assuming the Mafia does their night kill for the next two nights, we get rid of one Mafia and lose three nonmafia. Assuming there are three Mafioso (Likely, because of the Touhou set up) this puts us in almost the same situation as we are now, but with extra investigations and scum reads and the chance that the Mafia kills will hit third party or that they will be stopped by our protective roles. So, it isn't quite as good as Scenario 1, but even in the worst case, it's still beneficial.

Vote: Cactus

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I'm kind of hesitant to chalk this up to bad play when he had his vote on no lynch:
Cactus wrote:
I un-voted because if we are to vote on someone, I don't want to be vote for the factor that we may hit a townie[.]

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But wait....didn't he do a good thing by un-voting No lynch? Correct me if I'm wrong, but at one point, it seemed this day was going to go on without a lynch. If this dilemma hadn't occurred, I think that more people would have voted No Lynch. Then this day would've turned into ash because nothing productive got done.


But, Cactus is looking weird and not really putting up a good defense. So, Vote: Cactus


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Sorry Cactus, but they brought up some good points.

Vote: Cactus

Vote count please.


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Hm.

DJ has brought up some pretty good points. Even if Cactus isn't scum, at least we'll get some reads out of it.

Vote: Cactus

One more vote and the deed is done.

Oh, and is it just me, or did the same thing that's happening to Cactus happen to me in MG Mafia 5?

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Vote count.
[1]Nixter:Dephius
[1]Crabby:Felipe_9595
[8]Cactus:135,Nixter,Pachino,Prince Marth,DJ wizard cop,Brik,Sonicstormer38,Infinity.
[1]No lynch:Crabby


With the sudden change of attitude in Cactus the town began to suspect him. He had tried to explain himself, but all was in vain. The town had carried him onto the stage and wrapped the rope around his neck...only to find out that they had made a mistake.

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Plusle the head mason has been lynched.


NIGHT 1 HAS BEGUN
Send in all night actions. If you don't want to use your ability please tell me so the night can go faster.
Deadline for night roles is May 12,2012 18:00EST


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AW s***, I MISSED IT.

Oh well, I sign as a replacement.

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Apple Engi wrote:
AW s#%$&, I MISSED IT.

Oh well, I sign as a replacement.

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That was... unexpected?


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Please do not post at night. Also I would like to remind Dephius and Sonicstormer38 to send me their night actions through pm, since you two are new to this.


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ALL ROLES HAVE BEEN SENT IN AND THE DAY PHASE WILL BEGIN IN AN HOUR.


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Many sounds went off during the night time, some were undiscribable, but apparent non the less. Finally day had come. All of the town woke up to a scene that was not very pleasant. All of them gathered in the center of the town square and it quickly became clear what they were looking at. In front of them all laid two pokemon, both properly fainted. The town did not know what to make of the scenario that was set before them. Sure it was bad...but it could have been worse.

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Pachino the watcher and...
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Crabby the survivor

Have fainted.

DAY 2 HAS BEGUN
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BLAST.

We've just lost three counter-mafia voters.

Cactus being innocent confirms my suspicions that Brik was going for an easy mis-lynch, though.

Vote: Brikmaninoff

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