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Sheik's v0.9b fair with Bouncing Fish would be extremely scary. If you missed DI on dthrow you'd basically be ded at 20% from fair -> double fair or fair -> bouncing fish. TheBeep I believe in you ;)

Also, please not Sm4sh fair either. Moves that just link into themselves over and over again aren't fun.


It isn't fun being killed at like 40%.

Which Sheik's actual Fair can do if you link 2 or 3.

So yeah, pick your poison :chibirobo:

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Drarky wrote:
TheCodeSamurai wrote:
Sheik's v0.9b fair with Bouncing Fish would be extremely scary. If you missed DI on dthrow you'd basically be ded at 20% from fair -> double fair or fair -> bouncing fish. TheBeep I believe in you ;)

Also, please not Sm4sh fair either. Moves that just link into themselves over and over again aren't fun.


It isn't fun being killed at like 40%.

Which Sheik's actual Fair can do if you link 2 or 3.

So yeah, pick your poison :chibirobo:


when i play against sheiks i always dodge/avoid their fair unless there's to much lag. so i guess the linked 2-3 fairs is my poison because sm4sh chain combos are disgusting


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Well remember, you kept saying Sheik's fair got nerfed so, what's wrong with Bouncing fish being added? I mean, she only had one truly reliable kill move, which might be weakened now and we don't even know how strong bouncing fish will be so I am not sure complaining about it will get us anywhere.

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Uthrow, if DI'ed correctly, combos into standing jump fair, which doesn't combo into another fair at most percents. Dthrow has a similar problem, but if you're going to get a janky fair kill, dthrow's the way to do it, because if DI'ed incorrectly IMO it's easier to land the double fair: a little more space against most characters. They really have to be used together for maximum effect, because it's a DI trap which way to go.

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Uthrow, if DI'ed correctly, combos into standing jump fair, which doesn't combo into another fair at most percents. Dthrow has a similar problem, but if you're going to get a janky fair kill, dthrow's the way to do it, because if DI'ed incorrectly IMO it's easier to land the double fair: a little more space against most characters. They really have to be used together for maximum effect, because it's a DI trap which way to go.

Mhmmm, want to fight Code? Want to lay down the smack down?

My Sheik will fair you into the ring and pin you like 1 2 3. What's up now Code?

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What the f*** did you just f*** say about me, you little b****? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the SSF2 Discord, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret crew battles on IRC chats, and I have over 300 confirmed four-stocks. I am trained in 20XX warfare and I’m the top multishiner in the entire Team Star Flash clan. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*** words. You think you can get away with saying that s*** to me over the Internet? Think again, f***. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of alts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*** dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my pocket Yoshi. Not only am I extensively trained in swordsman combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the SSF2 character roster and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a** off the face of the continent, you little s***. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*** tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will s*** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*** dead, kiddo.

plz don't ban me

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What the f*** did you just f*** say about me, you little b****? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the SSF2 Discord, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret crew battles on IRC chats, and I have over 300 confirmed four-stocks. I am trained in 20XX warfare and I’m the top multishiner in the entire Team Star Flash clan. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*** words. You think you can get away with saying that s*** to me over the Internet? Think again, f***. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of alts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*** dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my pocket Yoshi. Not only am I extensively trained in swordsman combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the SSF2 character roster and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a** off the face of the continent, you little s***. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*** tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will s*** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*** dead, kiddo.

plz don't ban me

How dare you say that to me, you are not Akuma.

We will fight to the death at Dawn.

May Sheik marry one us after the other's death.

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What the f*** did you just f*** say about me, you little b****? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the SSF2 Discord, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret crew battles on IRC chats, and I have over 300 confirmed four-stocks. I am trained in 20XX warfare and I’m the top multishiner in the entire Team Star Flash clan. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*** words. You think you can get away with saying that s*** to me over the Internet? Think again, f***. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of alts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*** dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my pocket Yoshi. Not only am I extensively trained in swordsman combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the SSF2 character roster and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a** off the face of the continent, you little s***. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*** tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will s*** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*** dead, kiddo.

plz don't ban me

How dare you say that to me, you are not Akuma.

We will fight to the death at Dawn.

May Sheik marry one us after the other's death.

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Hmm.

Alright-this may be a bit late-but I'll lay some cents down. Likely more than 2.

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Well remember, you kept saying Sheik's fair got nerfed so, what's wrong with Bouncing fish being added? I mean, she only had one truly reliable kill move, which might be weakened now and we don't even know how strong bouncing fish will be so I am not sure complaining about it will get us anywhere.

Considering Melee Sheik and its similarities to SSF2 Sheik while being more than viable, the back of my mind tells me not to agree on that point.

Also, we don't know if that picture was actually them having bouncing fish be a thing or not.
Yeah, the pose and how Sheik's in the air gives us some glaring hints that it will have Bouncing Fish. However, always be both in hope and doubt-they never said anything yet about it actually being in or not-and things are subject to change too.

And yeah-it is true that we have little cues as to how strong this move will be.
So, everything's pretty much up in the air atm-just the devs and some of the testers really have the reins of Sheik atm..

Guess we gotta let time and patience handle this. :|

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Hmm.

Alright-this may be a bit late-but I'll lay some cents down. Likely more than 2.

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Well remember, you kept saying Sheik's fair got nerfed so, what's wrong with Bouncing fish being added? I mean, she only had one truly reliable kill move, which might be weakened now and we don't even know how strong bouncing fish will be so I am not sure complaining about it will get us anywhere.

Considering Melee Sheik and its similarities to SSF2 Sheik while being more than viable, the back of my mind tells me not to agree on that point.

Also, we don't know if that picture was actually them having bouncing fish be a thing or not.
Yeah, the pose and how Sheik's in the air gives us some glaring hints that it will have Bouncing Fish. However, always be both in hope and doubt-they never said anything yet about it actually being in or not-and things are subject to change too.

And yeah-it is true that we have little cues as to how strong this move will be.
So, everything's pretty much up in the air atm-just the devs and some of the testers really have the reins of Sheik atm..

Guess we gotta let time and patience handle this. :|

Sheik's fair in SSF2 is stronger then Melee fair, if Pit's upperdash arm is stronger in SSF2 then it is in Smash 4, then if Bouncing fish is confirmed, then it might be stronger in here then in smash 4.

I can see how scary that is.

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Just for reference, where did the whole "Bouncing Fish confirmed" stuff come from? I feel like I have been missing something :chibirobo:

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Bouncing Fish is definitely Side-B or at least Shielda is still a thing

Is the Shiek combo part of It'z Auraka's Beta Highlight reel

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Bouncing Fish can clearly be seen at 2:19

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