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Terra
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Lucina now, Deph next. Reads last. Day 1-Random votes Cactus. Asks 194 about inactivity. Comments on my pressure vote on Crabby, saying that "some people aren't on all the time". Then asks TOWK whether he honestly believes that anyone would be pressured by one vote when it takes seven to lynch? Starts talking about the role list from Mg Mafia 7. Posts Mg Mafia 7 role list. Is not surprised at Brik's voting of me. Then something useless about how the mafs will not see it coming. More useless stuff, nothing generally contributing, making a few jokes. Then casts suspicion on TOWK and Brik, attracting a lot of attention in the process. Then says something about how people can play good scum with no experience. Then says DJ doesn't look scummy at all, agreeing with the town with little reasoning. Tells Crabby about my pressure vote again. Day 2-Immediately is shocked over why Cactus died. Is a little confused over why they would go for him over confused players even after Brik's explanation. Mentions that Gastly is maf sided at that the message I received is not in the right format. Questions why I needed to say I was a cop(wasn't paying attention). Then states that the plot thickens. Mentions how Deph could be a maf roleblocker. Then starts attacking Deph for claiming doc so early. Some more stuff on Mafia 7, and even more stuff on Mafia 7 in the next two posts. Then assumes that no one else visited 135. Says that scumhunting isn't his strong suit. Nothing useful in a few more pages.
And that's it. Close to nothing contributed. I think this should be enough justification as to: Vote:Lucina @TOWK: Does this suffice as to why Brik voted for Lucina? Luke and Jenka were in Mafia 4 and Mafia 9 respectively, btw.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:58 am |
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TOWK
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Well, no not really. All you're saying is that he hasn't contributed much, when some people have done things genuinely summy. I guess it's possible that he's trying to lay low, but I don't think it's justification to vote him. I'll vote him later Today or tomorrow if it'll get us a flip, but for now my vote stays. Also my bad, for whatever reason I'm constańly getting Layton and cave story games mixed up, put together, etc.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:12 am |
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Fly or Die
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I'm getting some serious scum reads from the last few posts . . . everything seems a bit rushed.
I'm suspiscious on how BB manages to pretty much vanish (one post in the last 3 pages, IIRC) as we get closer to a lynch. Other people too.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:15 am |
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DJ Wizard Cop
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I'm personally getting more and more convinced that once we lynch Lucina he's going to flip scum and we can lynch TWOK.
TWOK has some pretty dumb reasoning: "194 wouldn't include two protective roles from the same game therefore Deph is scum"
First of all 194 designed both of those games and second of all, if they both came from the same game, why couldn't they both be in this one?
Of course they're not both from the same game but it seems like rather forced reasoning to lynch Deph. And maybe keep pressure off Lucina in the process.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:40 am |
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TOWK
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My my main reason for voting Deph it's the fact that I think it's unlikely there's would be two protective roles from te same game, it's that after only two on him and light pressure, he claimed doctor when that was completely unnecessary. He could have been vague like Terra, but he got defensive and went straight for the claim.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:44 am |
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Blood
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What? My post was the first one on the previous page.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:38 pm |
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Blood
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Disregard what I said I completely read that wrong.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:40 pm |
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Savvy, eh?
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Terra, my thanks to you for verbalizing what I was too lazy to.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:41 pm |
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Fly or Die
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Vote Count please.
I lost track.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:44 pm |
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Blood
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The town looks like it's split in two(again). To be honest I don't really know who side I should take. Like I stated earlier in the game the chances of Dephius actually being the doctor is not that likely especially considering Terra's claim and Dephius actions before, but if we're wrong then we really screw up and we'll probably lose two protection roles. On the other hand Lucina really hasn't contributed that much, his previous post are weird to say the least, and lynching him has less risk then lynching Dephius.
...I might have to read over the topic or something to make my final decision.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:38 pm |
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Ikuyo
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Game statusVoting Lucina: Brikmaninoff, DJ Wizard Cop, Terra Voting Dephius: TheOneWhoKnocks, Crabby Not voting: 135, Lucina, Void, Fly or Die, Dephius, Believeblood Deadline: October 21st, 22:00 hrs.With 11 players alive, 6 votes are required to cast a lynch. If deadline is reached with no consensus, no lynch will happen.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:07 pm |
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135
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So we can't reach consensus apparently. Should we No Lynch or just do it? Since there are probably 3 to 4 Mafia, I think we are somewhat safe, but I suppose it really depends on 3rd party roles.
Let's heat it up a bit, shall we? Vote: Lucina Also please don't Hammer until we AT LAST have a Role-Claim lol
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:01 pm |
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135
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-AT LEAST-
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:01 pm |
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Crabby
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Lucina lynch is bogus.
Dephius lynch makes more sense for the day, and if you want to play it a bit more save Believeblood lynch makes more sense than Lucina because of the reasons I stated earlier.
I'm keeping my vote on Deph. I want my scumhunter bonus.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:07 pm |
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Blood
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:49 pm Posts: 594 Location: ???????????????
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So I've read the topic again along with other mafia games to see if Lucina acted the same way as he is now, the same goes for Dephius. Specifically I looked back at mafia 7(where Lucina was townie), mafia 8 (where Dephius was force to claim on the second day and Lucina was a mafia.) and mafia 11.(just for more sources.) First I'll start with Lucina. It's very hard to tell wether someone acts a certain way based on their alignment because they might actually develop new ways of thinking and playing. Lucina is one of those people. In mafia 7 he mostly joked around for a majority of the game and only got serious when asked to and when others put pressure on him.(Similar to now.) In mafia 8 he simply waited for something to come his way and ride it's wave. From this people might think that he's a townie because he hasn't always jumped on other people's accusation(Brik's,TOWK, and mine.) Although that's true that mafia tactic change in mafia 11. Even though he was a mafia in game 11, he was actually quite active and trying to throw the town off without anyone leading the convesation. So it's possible that his mafia tactics have actually changed. What I think happened is Lucina might have seen that being to aggressive got him killed and is changing his tactic once again to something more passive. In other words it could be either he really is a townie following his usual tactics or he is a mafia who is trying to respond to his mistakes in the past. Personally I'm betting on the first option because the latter should have made him want to go back to his original mafia strategy. Next Dephius has been forced to claim his role numerous times, but the way he revealed his role this time was quite different from the other times he revealed his role. In mafia 8 he revealed his investigation role on the second day. The manner in which he had done so was rather different. You noticed in that mafia Dephius always stuck to one thing, that he investigated brik. He didn't differ from that fact at all and he stuck with it. In this mafia Dephius constantly infers that he might be a regular role blocker, when he sees no one listens he immediately claims as a doctor. This shows a change in mindset in Dephius and is unlike mafia 8. I can see that maybe a more experienced Dephius would maybe want to conceal his role as a doctor, but the thing that bothers me is that unlike mafia 8 his claim snapped so suddenly. Also what bothers me is that a more experienced Dephius might have had a better chance inferring he was a protection role without immediately claiming. Mafia 11 role reveal actually had no signifigance since he was force to claim. After all of these re reads and deductions I've finally made up my mind. Vote:DephiusIn fact, can I concrete vote or was that taken out because I really don't want to have second thoughts again.
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