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Geno
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Discuss Fox specific gameplay here.
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:20 am |
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Shady75
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Damn Fox feels nice now ! With the increased falling speed, it's more fun than it has ever been to just run around throwing SHFF nairs/bairs. Also upthrow => upair now doesn't work at higher percentages, which is a good thing imo. You have to use it at the right time. Also reverse bair is now possible, that's a good thing I have troubles landing falling upairs against a small character like Jigglypuff. Don't know if it's actually possible, doesn't look like it. Anyway so far I like 0.9b Fox. 
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:03 pm |
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Starkiller
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 |  |  |  | Shady75 wrote: Damn Fox feels nice now ! With the increased falling speed, it's more fun than it has ever been to just run around throwing SHFF nairs/bairs. Also upthrow => upair now doesn't work at higher percentages, which is a good thing imo. You have to use it at the right time. Also reverse bair is now possible, that's a good thing I have troubles landing falling upairs against a small character like Jigglypuff. Don't know if it's actually possible, doesn't look like it. Anyway so far I like 0.9b Fox.  |  |  |  |  |
I haven't tried him out yet, but in 0.9a the hitbox for his uairs appeared to only be his legs and in Melee the hitbox also includes his lower torso (so SHFF uairs after jab resets were possible). So thats why you have a hard time hitting the small guys.
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:04 pm |
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Shady75
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Ah ok. Against taller characters it's possible but now because of the high falling speed I think it's impossible to hit him with the 2 hits of the move, only one will hit him. Or maybe it's possible but it's extremely difficult then, has to be frame-perfect.
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:38 pm |
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GreaterMaelstrom
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wasn't this always possible?
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:12 pm |
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Shady75
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Uh, well whenever I tried to hit the opponent with a bair when running at them it would send them behind me. Now it sends them forward. Maybe it was possible but then it was really difficult cuz I've tried many times and it never worked. Now as long as you're facing the opponent when you bair them it works. Like C.Falon's bair. Or Sheik's. I could do it without much of a problem with these two. It's only with Fox I never managed to do it.
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:18 pm |
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Starkiller
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Nah dw you are right its a new hitbox
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:03 pm |
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GreaterMaelstrom
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oh yeah, the hitboxes are different, but reverse BAir worked in 0.9a aswell, It was more difficult to connect the appropriate hitbox out of a SH though
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:43 pm |
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gEmssbguy13
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I think the hitbox always launched the opponents behind Fox until now, good eye 
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:55 pm |
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GreaterMaelstrom
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...wait I'm mistaken reverse BAir for Dash cancel > reverse > BAir *my mistake
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:13 pm |
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Jupiteryo
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Due to the sliding changes in this version, Fox has a better horizontal combo game!
Jumping out of a shine while moving forward now retains -much- more horizontal momentum. Due to this change Fox has gained a ton of additional mobility after connecting with a properly spaced running shine or short hopped aerial. For example, he may now shine nair an opponent across the entire stage.
Doing an aerial into a shine grab no longer transfers momentum from the aerial into the grab! Any aerial linked into a shine grab is a lot scarier and can now properly lead into an up-throw up air.
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:41 am |
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gEmssbguy13
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Fox is becoming really good in this version, I think he might be perfect soon! SHFF's are really fun now. Nair > Shine is awesome. Blaster shots look fancy. Easy high-top tier material. Fox is shaping up nicely, though his recovery is almost as bad as his N64 one. 
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:58 pm |
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SoldierSunday
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Fox vs Zelda on WarioWare is so bad for fox omg lol
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:20 pm |
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Starkiller
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Man, I can't play this character XD
Fall speed OP
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:55 pm |
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gEmssbguy13
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Zelda has too many tools to shut down Fox, she needs a bit of priority nerf or something. That, and Fox stinks on small stages  Lol, it takes tech skill man.
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