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Asking questions does not equal scumhunting, Arthur.

Felipe, why is your vote still on Kyuubit?

And JC, let's give Brik the benefit of the doubt here. You say who you roleblocked, and then Brik provides an explanation. If there is a flaw in that explanation or you feel it is not satisfactory, we lynch him. OK?

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I roleblocked Brikmaninoff.

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Blood wrote:
Not gonna continue the huge quote chain of JC.
Anyways...
JamesClyde wrote:
I didn't say you called me suspicious in that paragraph. You're being way too defensive.

Now THIS is a contradiction. Here I'll give you two quotes where you said I thought you were suspicious.
JamesClyde wrote:
If you're trying to say that I am the most likely suspect of being mafia other than KA just because I was turned into a role blocker, I now suspect you of being the person who changed my role for that night.

JamesClyde wrote:
Also, if you weren't calling me suspicious, then why was my username next to King Arthur's when you said that me being a roleblocker is the best lead we have right now besides Arthur?

Lying is not good JC.

When I said that, I meant it in the paragraph above the one where I didn't call you suspicious. That is not a real contradiction, because it was not in that paragraph, and they do not even contradict themselves. I didn't say that you called suspicious in that paragraph, or even in the quotes that you stated here. Lying is not good Blood.

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JamesClyde wrote:
Blood wrote:
Not gonna continue the huge quote chain of JC.
Anyways...
JamesClyde wrote:
I didn't say you called me suspicious in that paragraph. You're being way too defensive.

Now THIS is a contradiction. Here I'll give you two quotes where you said I thought you were suspicious.
JamesClyde wrote:
If you're trying to say that I am the most likely suspect of being mafia other than KA just because I was turned into a role blocker, I now suspect you of being the person who changed my role for that night.

JamesClyde wrote:
Also, if you weren't calling me suspicious, then why was my username next to King Arthur's when you said that me being a roleblocker is the best lead we have right now besides Arthur?

Lying is not good JC.

When I said that, I meant it in the paragraph above the one where I didn't call you suspicious. That is not a real contradiction, because it was not in that paragraph, and they do not even contradict themselves. I didn't say that you called suspicious in that paragraph, or even in the quotes that you stated here. Lying is not good Blood.

Yeah...nice try bro.

The paragraph above the one where you didn't call me suspicious?

Hmm...let me see...oh yeah there isn't one that's not off topic from me calling you suspicious.

JamesClyde wrote:
You know, instead of me overreacting, I'm starting to think that you are. What I said was nothing like what you put there. It is more like this.
"No townie would accuse me of being scum just because I was turned into a roleblocker for that night. However, you did, which makes me think that you are the person who turned me into a roleblocker for that night. I suspect you now." That's more like I said.

THIS is the ONLY quote where you have not called me suspicious and this has NOTHING to do with what we were talking about.
Which was...

Blood wrote:
For the last time already I did not call you suspicious in that particular post, your role change is a LEAD. A L.E.A.D. Do you know what that's means? Investigating your role change will make the next day go faster because we'll obtain reads as people start to react. Those reactions could lead to another potential scum besides Arthur.


This quote clearly references...

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It's not good to rush lynches, you know. We still can get a bit of information before lynching him. I'm not saying he looks innocent, but the day could be better spent gathering more info and THEN lynching king Arthur so the next day moves faster. The JC is a role blocker thing is probably the best lead we have right now besides Arthur.


To which you responded...

JamesClyde wrote:
I didn't say that you called me suspicious in that paragraph. You're being too defensive.


By saying this you state that you never said I called you suspicious in your response which was...

JamesClyde wrote:
Blood, what do you mean by saying that I am 'probably the best lead we have right now'? If you're trying to say that I am the most likely suspect of being mafia other than KA just because I was turned into a role blocker, I now suspect you of being the person who changed my role for that night. Because no one else would say that I am the top scum read other than KA only because my role was changed for that night.


And you then posted shortly after...

JamesClyde wrote:
Also, if you weren't calling me suspicious, then why was my username next to King Arthur's when you said that me being a roleblocker is the best lead we have right now besides Arthur? Arthur was already very suspicious, and what that sentence implied was that since I was turned into a roleblocker for that night, I am the top scumread next to Arthur.


Where both clearly state that you thought I called you suspicious.
Conclusion-JamesClyde thought I called him suspicious.


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@Terra: Whaaaaa...

@JamesClyde: You... roleblocked... me?

I...

Uhm...

Ok.

Why did you roleblock me?

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Brikmaninoff wrote:
@Terra: Whaaaaa...

@JamesClyde: You... roleblocked... me?

I...

Uhm...

Ok.

Why did you roleblock me?


And that is how to spur JC into action.

Brik, please. We already have all the facts from JC: we don't need his opinions just yet.

I'm just as curious as he is on this case: How in the WORLD do you know how he got that, specifically?

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His reason for blocking me, of all people, is actually quite important. I'm unsure how you see an advantage to him keeping it to himself.

I didn't know exactly what happened, just that something important did. I can't divulge how I came across that information, though.

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The least suspicious one is usually the mafia. That's why. Now how did you get your information.

Nitpicking on Blood's post soon.

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Good fellow, you are using the same line of reasoning as the late Panthera Leo. For one so prone to point out the logical fallacies of others, do you not find that a bit if a stretch? Was your reasoning actually "this guy has given zero scum tells, therefore he must be scum"?

I think Dephius could help us out in this situation. Dephius, something important happened to you yesterday as well. Could you share what it was with us, please?

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okokokok wait na second there, we have a problem here, today Brikk clearly acted like he obtained some info today (clearly stating he used his night action and got something ine xchange), and JamesClyde said he RB'd Brik, that means one of those 2 must be lying.

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Felipe_9595 wrote:
(clearly stating he used his night action and got something ine xchange)

Not really

Somebody could have a power that lets them send info to somebody else


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actually, him saying that he can't say how he got the information makes that more likely, in my opinion


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Kyuubit wrote:
actually, him saying that he can't say how he got the information makes that more likely, in my opinion


Wtf are you talking about, thats in my book, an Investigative role, if Brik is Watcher or Tracker (And thats the most posible case, if you see his posts) one of them is lying.

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Kyuubit wrote:
Felipe_9595 wrote:
(clearly stating he used his night action and got something ine xchange)

Not really

Somebody could have a power that lets them send info to somebody else

Honestly, I think that may be the case here.
With Brik being the most town person, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did that.

And I think he'd let us know if he used this ability and JC is lying.


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Felipe_9595 wrote:
Kyuubit wrote:
actually, him saying that he can't say how he got the information makes that more likely, in my opinion


Wtf are you talking about, thats in my book, an Investigative role, if Brik is Watcher or Tracker (And thats the most posible case, if you see his posts) one of them is lying.

what part of "in my opinion" did you not get?

or do you not understand that it's possible for my opinion and your opinion to be different?


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