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The Possibility of Last-Minute Clones 

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Possible, and wouldn't mind if it happened. 57%  57%  [ 30 ]
Possible, but a bad idea. 15%  15%  [ 8 ]
Not possible, but wouldn't mind if it was. 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
Not possible, and clones should stay far away from this game anyway. 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
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The Possibility of Last-Minute Clones 
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Lucas, Dr,Mario, Lucina, Toon Link, Pichu (without backfire), Ganondorf are possible Clone and Semi-clone characters.
Btw, Falco and Luigi are Semi-Clones.
I'm not gonna argue about Kratos, mostly because I don't know nothing about Tales of Symphonia.

I'd be surprised if Kratos was like Lloyd in this, because in ToS itself they have very different playstyles. Kratos is more power mixed with magic at less speed and Lloyd is well more like a glass cannon. Kratos and Lloyd only really share Demon Fang and maybe Sonic Thrust, but that's bout it.

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DarkSwiftN wrote:
Shiver-Star wrote:
Lucas, Dr,Mario, Lucina, Toon Link, Pichu (without backfire), Ganondorf are possible Clone and Semi-clone characters.
Btw, Falco and Luigi are Semi-Clones.
I'm not gonna argue about Kratos, mostly because I don't know nothing about Tales of Symphonia.

I'd be surprised if Kratos was like Lloyd in this, because in ToS itself they have very different playstyles. Kratos is more power mixed with magic at less speed and Lloyd is well more like a glass cannon. Kratos and Lloyd only really share Demon Fang and maybe Sonic Thrust, but that's bout it.

I was refering that, due to the fact I don't know ANYTHING about ToS, I can't comment about Kratos.

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I'm not criticizing you, I'm just expressing my surprise that Kratos was intended to be a clone

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I'm not criticizing you, I'm just expressing my surprise that Kratos was intended to be a clone

I'm pretty sure he made up that assumption. I'm 99% sure Kratos was intended as a completely decloned character.

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With the leak that Knuckles is a Sonic clone in the next version of Project M, he's looking a tad more likely right now.

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Yeah that was me that said the clone thing. By clone I mean semi-clone he was going to have fierce demon fang and stuff like that... [it has been a long time since I saw the first dojo up with all the characters from original roster]. I do know for sure that Kratos was planned to have Lloyd's current final smash style of attack [Lloyd was going to have explosion attack] so I'm pretty sure they took some of Kratos and converted it to Lloyd.

Knuckles? What makes you sure about that? Do you think Knuckles will be like Sonic or maybe Captain Falcon? This is a clone character talk after all.


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Knuckles being a Sonic clone in Project M does nothing to contribute his chances really.

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PM Wario is already present, and Isaac (who was leaked alongside Knuckles) is in development, so it's not like PM characters don't already have a presence. They might copy Sonic's files at first to save a bit of hitbox/frame data work.

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I'd rather see Knuckles get the SSF2 dev's unique spin on the move-set than seeing a moveset that's basically copying Sonic's move set with gliding.

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Agreed, Knuckles has lots of potential for a 100% original moveset

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I think if they made Pichu less of a clone(and without the recoil of course) Pichu might be fun to play as.

I'm not saying he should, but he could play a little like this:

Side Smash- Back Flip
Similar to Fox Side Smash but weaker and with electric effect

Up Smash- Upward Headbutt
Similar to Mario's Up Smash but with electric effect

Down Smash- Electric Pulse
Electric waves come from pichu

Side Special- Volt Tackle
A combination of Wario's Side Special and Fox' Up Special/Side Special

Up Special- Support
Two Pidgey Carry Pichu Upwards doesn't fall helplessly afterwards

Down Special- Thunder Wave
Similar to DK' Down Special but stuns

Neutral Special- Charge
Increases the damage and knockback of all specials and down smash,
has contact damage and works similar to Mewtwo's Neutral Air while in midair

Forward Air- Headbutt
Swings his head downward, earlier frames can meteor smash

Down Air-
Swings tail downward meteor smashes opponents, some start lag but a quick attack

Down Throw- Sweet Kiss
Pushes off the opponent using a small electric current, using this throw leaves the opponent confused afterwards

All other Aerial, Throws, Pummel, Tilts, etc would stay the same, and only Volt tackle has recoil damage

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I think what PM meant was they were going to use the clone engine that allows them to easily add new characters, so they were going to import knuckles by cloning Sonic.

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I think what PM meant was they were going to use the clone engine that allows them to easily add new characters, so they were going to import knuckles by cloning Sonic.

And I think SSF2!Knuckles might be similar in order to avoid alienating PM players.

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Still think making Knuckles a Sonic clone or semi-clone is a bad idea.

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Still think making Knuckles a Sonic clone or semi-clone is a bad idea.

We have a lot of people here who also play PM. It'll basically be a necessity.

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