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Lucario - Would be an interesting idea, especially if he got some of his PM stuff.

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mariomario345 wrote:
TheBlue10 wrote:
Kirb-Star wrote:
DSwift wrote:
Lucario - Would be an interesting idea, especially if he got some of his PM stuff.

whywouldsomebodyevenaskforsuchanabominationtobeinthisfangameohgodwhy


PM = Private Memebr?
(ImnotsorryIknowwhatPMactuallyisbutIcouldntresist)

*facepalm* Project M. A brawl mod with a competitive community. Where everybody is buffed.


ImnotsorryIknowwhatPMactuallyisbutIcouldntresist

Try to read that next time pls thanks.

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In terms of PKMN characters, I speculate:

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Charizard
Lucario
Pichu (Yes, one of my mains. Sue me.)
PKMN Trainer
Squirtle
Ivysaur


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I'm still up for predicting Darkrai. Again, one of the few Pokemon to be shown as evil. He'd also make a great Glass Cannon character like in the main games. In terms of evil feats he's done:

Traps a kid in a nightmare *Sinnoh games*
Traps you in a nightmare for his event (and makes a disturbing illusion person) *Platinum*.
Was the true villain in the Mystery Dungeon Explorer games and went as far as to screw up time (thus making Primal Dialga) and attempt the same with space just to create an everlasting darkness for him to rule. He was also responsible for making you into a Pokemon.
Was heavily hinted to have killed the ghost girl in Black 2/White 2 (the guide book stated the girl died in her sleep) because the Lunar Wing (Cresselia) didn't make it in time.
Outside of the "Rise of Darkrai" movie and being owned by a character, it uses its power multiple times in the anime to troll the main crew.
Pokemon Special (Adventures) tells that its ability can be lethal if the person doesn't wake up in time and works even if it's in a Pokeball.


So yeah, good example of an evil Pokemon that would be nice to play as.

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In terms of PKMN characters, I speculate:

Pikachu Already in
Jigglypuff Already in
Mewtwo
Charizard Is a Pokeball Pokemon along with Venusaur and Blastoise so I doubt this will change
Lucario
Pichu (Yes, one of my mains. Sue me.)
PKMN Trainer Been told repeatably it's not possible to do with Flash
Squirtle Only works with PKMN Trainer; see above
Ivysaur Same as above

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Not sure who told you Pokémon Trainer is not possible to do in flash.


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BlazingBarrager wrote:

dragonballhero wrote:
In terms of PKMN characters, I speculate:

Pikachu Already in
Jigglypuff Already in
Mewtwo
Charizard Is a Pokeball Pokemon along with Venusaur and Blastoise so I doubt this will change
Lucario
Pichu (Yes, one of my mains. Sue me.)
PKMN Trainer Been told repeatably it's not possible to do with Flash Source?
Squirtle Only works with PKMN Trainer; see above This didn't stop Charizard in SSB4.
Ivysaur Same as above Same as above.

Notes in red.

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Kirb-Star wrote:
BlazingBarrager wrote:

dragonballhero wrote:
In terms of PKMN characters, I speculate:

Pikachu Already in
Jigglypuff Already in
Mewtwo Mewtwo would be an unlockable character if he joins, unless the Devs have something up their sleeves for Beta.
Charizard Is a Pokeball Pokemon along with Venusaur and Blastoise so I doubt this will change
Lucario Hopefully Lucario joins with Mewtwo so fans can have the dream battle like SSB4!
Pichu (Yes, one of my mains. Sue me.) Pichu is going to be a Poke Ball in Beta.
PKMN Trainer Been told repeatably it's not possible to do with Flash Source? Pokemon Trainer is possible.
Squirtle Only works with PKMN Trainer; see above This didn't stop Charizard in SSB4.
Ivysaur Same as above Same as above.

Notes in red.


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Geno wrote:
Not sure who told you Pokémon Trainer is not possible to do in flash.

I could have sworn this was stated multiple times a while back. Maybe I was thinking wrong. Nonetheless, I still don't see Pokemon Trainer making it since Charizard is a PokeBall character along with Blastoise and Venusaur, but I could be wrong.

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I don't see why Pokémon Trainer has to be based off Red from Gen I. There's like six other generations now.

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If Pokémon trainer got in, he'd only have like 16 sprites, being a background character. A set of all seven trainers wouldn't be TOO unreasonable.

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I'll say this much, after Pac-Man, I personally don't exactly want to rule out Charizard and Pichu out just yet...

Also, as others have said: We DO have multiple PKMN Trainers across the series so far. Heck, even if Red/Blue/Leaf were SSF2's PKMN Trainer, do the Gen. 1 PKMN HAVE to be Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard?


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Geno wrote:
Not sure who told you Pokémon Trainer is not possible to do in flash.


Well I'm pretty sure that previously when SSF2 was in like 0.6 or so it wasn't possible. Back when Steven had his skype open up for everyone.

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TheBlue10 wrote:
Geno wrote:
Not sure who told you Pokémon Trainer is not possible to do in flash.


Well I'm pretty sure that previously when SSF2 was in like 0.6 or so it wasn't possible. Back when Steven had his skype open up for everyone.


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BluePikmin11R wrote:
My speculation roster for Super Smash Flash 2. 65 characters total, Sheik included.

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What do you think?

oh hey fumi
I see that McLeodGaming logo and it made me think
If any MG character got into SSF2 despite all the rules
I'd say YeahJamFury are the definitive MG rep, imho
They'd either function as a :zelda: / :sheik: where you switch between the 3 with their own whole movesets
Or they'd function like Duck Hunt where they all travel together and just sorta sit back/react as whoever feels like it does the attacking
A fun mockup of some of their moves if they traveled together: show
Yeah takes the lead, Jam follows behind Yeah and Fury stands beside them (In sprite form, he would be between the two and behind them, think of the M&L: Paper Jam costume from Super Mario Maker), they all travel together, this includes jumping, rolling and even getting launched
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Gimmick: Blocks
Yeah has 3 blocks in his "storage", meaning he can only have 3 out at a time before the trio has to destroy one or more of them in order to use any more
These blocks can be used as small, solid platforms for anyone, but can't be utilized as ledges
They can be broken when taken enough damage, but any move that Fury's involved in breaks them instantly if he hits the block
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Jab has all 3 taking turns jabbing
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All the Tilts and the Dash Attack are Jam's specialty
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All the Smash Attacks are Fury's job, meaning they all break blocks;
FSmash: Think of :captainfalcon:'s Falcon Punch, but weaker, Jam watches whilst Yeah gets out of the way
USmash: Headbutt of Manlyness, Yeah and Jam duck to protect themselves
DSmash: Stamps the ground and causes a shockwave, Yeah and Jam get bounced up as a comedic touch
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Specials utilize everyone
NSpecial: Yeah charges his magical little antennae things by holding down the Special button, you can aim in the 8 compass directions, the longer you charge, the farther the projectile travels. When the Projectile either reaches it's destination or hits someone, it stops in its tracks and a Block is formed
SSpecial: Jam utilizes his hammer to fling the trio, their bodies become hitboxes
USpecial: Yeah, Jam and Fury become a human chain and Fury whiplashes Jam and Yeah diagonally upward towards the ledge, where Yeah can grab it if he's close, it's possible to break blocks this way
DSpecial: Fury stomps angrily, this causes an effect similar to :donkeykong:'s Hand Slap and breaks any blocks in a nearby circular radius if used on the ground, burys grounded opponents and soft-spikes airborne foes
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All Aerials are Yeah's duty
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IDK what else to put

I might make a few concept sprites and a few alt. colors for the trio when I feel like it, IDK :chibirobo:

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dragonballhero wrote:
I'll say this much, after Pac-Man, I personally don't exactly want to rule out Charizard and Pichu out just yet...

Also, as others have said: We DO have multiple PKMN Trainers across the series so far. Heck, even if Red/Blue/Leaf were SSF2's PKMN Trainer, do the Gen. 1 PKMN HAVE to be Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard?


First: "I personally don't exactly want to rule out Charizard and Pichu out just yet..." Stay in school, kids. 8-)

I think Charizard was in the Dev Blog about Pokemon (correct me if I'm wrong), and they JUST announced that Pichu would be a Pokemon, with a complete attack and everything a regular Pokemon in Smash Bros. would get.

If the upcoming version was like v0.7 or something, that might be plausible. But since this is Beta we're talking about, I don't think this is very likely (unless they're plannning to trick us. :o )

Crow Riolu wrote:
If Pokémon trainer got in, he'd only have like 16 sprites, being a background character. A set of all seven trainers wouldn't be TOO unreasonable.


Or be an actual character who uses Pokemon gear as opposed to actual Pokemon.

dragonballhero wrote:
In terms of PKMN characters, I speculate:

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Charizard Already a Pokemon, and unlike PAC-MAN, Charizard was (maybe) in the Pokemon Dev Blog, so that rules it out.
Lucario I see Mewtwo getting in before Lucario. Would be nice, though.
Pichu (Yes, one of my mains. Sue me. Well, at least I'm not the only one.)See Charizard.
PKMN Trainer Only if he/she uses Pokemon gear.
Squirtle No.
Ivysaur See above.


Really, Pikachu, Jiglypuff, and Mewtwo are the only Pokemon who have a shot here (and maybe Lucario).

As for MY character prediction, let's go over who's already in:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Donkey Kong
6. Yoshi
7. Wario
8. Link
9. Zelda
10. Sheik
11. Samus
12. Zero Suit Samus
13. Kiby
14. Meta Knight
15. Fox
16. Pikachu
17. Jigglypuff
18. Captain Falcon
19. Ness
20. Marth
21. Mr. Game & Watch
22. Pit
23. Sonic
24. Tails
25. Mega Man
26. PAC-MAN
27. Isaac
28. Chibi-Robo
29. Lloyd
30. Sora
31. Bomberman
32. Black Mage
33. Naruto
34. Ichigo
35. Goku
36. Sandbag

I imagine that this will make the Beta roster, with Sandbag being the only unlockable character (like Black Mage in v0.6, Captain Falcon in v0.7, and Jigglypuff in v0.8). Since Beta will be the version BEFORE the final version, I think all of the unlockable content will be stored for the finished product (aside from Sandbag).

As such, the unlockable characters I have in mind are as follows:

37. Bowser Jr. or a new Mario character (Paper Mario/Daisy/Waluigi)
38. Diddy Kong
39. Ganondorf
40. King Dedede
41. Falco
42. Mewtwo
43. Ike
44. R.O.B.
45. Duck Hunt
46. Villager
47. Ice Climbers
48. Shadow
49. Cloud
50. Luffy

Thoughts?


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