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I wouldn't honestly consider it a choice.
My best friend of whom is gay apparently has been gay for years but never even realized it. But then he realized his sexuality, then looked back and he was like "Whoa." He even thought he was straight for the longest time. He didn't exactly 'choose' to be gay. Hell, if he could have chose his sexuality, I wouldn't have been surprised if he picked being straight!
Just sayin'.

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lol, I've never heard of that happening. How could you not know were gay?

I'm not sure how people become gay now, but I know it's not a gene, cause it's possible the son of a gay man could be completely straight. (assuming that the father had sex with a female to get the child).

Maybe something happens at birth. IDK. It may forever be a mystery...

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I love you too TSON :mrgreen:

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That was lame, dude. At least try to defend your post instead of busting out the "I LOVE YOU TOO XD" card.
Well, I guess there really is no way to defend your post, but still.

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Is it true that the gay people who don't flame (Y'know what I mean) can be more easily detected that they are gay by other gays than straights?

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^that doesn't really have anything to do with the topic, that's straying kind of far off.. but no. judging is usually based off of stereotypes and honestly 9/10 times is wrong - doesn't matter if the judge is gay or straight.
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Dr. phil's guests and news stories about people's lives say other wise. But yeah it also causes trauma.

Dr. Phil doesn't even have a license, you do know that, right?
plus, how can you prove that being molested caused your feelings towards men and you weren't already prone to being gay once you began exploring? you cannot. all this rape would do is accelerate that experimentation and add a s*** of trauma. it's not like being raped at a young age would encourage you to like people like your rapist. that doesn't even make sense. honestly it would probably have the opposite effect. so....

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Well then I was going to say that if the super flaming gays that also hate people that dislike gays could just suck it in at public places, no one would know that they are gay and no one would be arguing or whatever gay vs. straight people do.

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It doesn't even matter - there's plenty of people that do that already, or aren't flamboyant to begin with. Yet still - they can't get married.

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I find to be s***. I think you should marry what you want.

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Dr. Phil doesn't even have a license, you do know that, right?
plus, how can you prove that being molested caused your feelings towards men and you weren't already prone to being gay once you began exploring? you cannot. all this rape would do is accelerate that experimentation and add a s#%$& of trauma. it's not like being raped at a young age would encourage you to like people like your rapist. that doesn't even make sense. honestly it would probably have the opposite effect. so....


lol, true, it can't be proved, so you got me there. But isn't there a possibility that being molested would lead to sexual confusion? Like for example, have you ever seen the movie "Antoine Fisher"(based on a true story)? He was raped by his nanny at a super young age and grew up to be awkward at being with women...or people for that matter. If he didn't have his trusty counselor, who knows what could've happened.

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homosexuality is not a choice......you're born that way, or you aren't.


I agree with everything else you said, EXCEPT this. No one should be judged on who they love, but it's how you grow up that determines if you become gay. There is NO gay gene. MULTIPLE factors could be THE deciding factor when you're young:

- Molestation. (This has happened plenty times, and people tend blame it on this)
- Heartbreak. (this has actually happened with lots of people I know, ESPECIALLY females)
- gay promotion. (kids are impressionable. There is gay promotion. only in media, but very little)
- Not living in Texas.

jk on that last one. ;)

but there's plenty more I can't think of right now.


I was never molested
My heart was first broken by another boy
There was no gay promotion when I was a child, and I was actually afraid that I would end up being gay because I noticed at an early age that I was attracted to men so
If anything, the way I grew up should have ensured that I be heterosexual

but thanks for your insight
you're straight aren't you


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you're straight aren't you

Not all straight people think like that.

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you're straight aren't you

Yes, yes I am. But I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. I said COULD BE the deciding factor though. Notice how I didn't say "It must be one of these that make you gay.", but instead listed a few reasons that I thought could possibly lead a person to homosexuality.

Some might be wrong, and I understand, but don't take it out on all straight people, we're not all bad ;)

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Dreamcaster wrote:
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Dr. Phil doesn't even have a license, you do know that, right?
plus, how can you prove that being molested caused your feelings towards men and you weren't already prone to being gay once you began exploring? you cannot. all this rape would do is accelerate that experimentation and add a s#%$& of trauma. it's not like being raped at a young age would encourage you to like people like your rapist. that doesn't even make sense. honestly it would probably have the opposite effect. so....


lol, true, it can't be proved, so you got me there. But isn't there a possibility that being molested would lead to sexual confusion? Like for example, have you ever seen the movie "Antoine Fisher"(based on a true story)? He was raped by his nanny at a super young age and grew up to be awkward at being with women...or people for that matter. If he didn't have his trusty counselor, who knows what could've happened.

exactly my point - if a guy rapes you you're probably LESS likely to like guys/feel comfortable around them. it definitely wouldn't promote it.

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Scott wrote:
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you're straight aren't you

Not all straight people think like that.

Didn't make that claim lol
My point is, it's rare that you'll hear a gay person claim that someone is made gay by events in their early life...

Does that make sense or


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