Playridise, bottom of bottom 15 IS 25th.

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Also I will defend BDee and say why I think he is top 25. (rant begin) Bandana Dee has a lot of good tools.

His nair in particular is basically Smash Ultimate Palutena nair which is really scary.
T: It really isn't. Ultimate Palutena's Nair doesn't have problems with people falling out of the move, nor does it have problems with SDI or it hitting the opponent backwards and causing the combo to drop completely. Bandana Dee's Nair is also active for a much shorter time and part of what makes the move scary is Palutena actually has the mobility to capitalise off her Nair in a meaningful way. Bandana Dee doesn't have this. See below.

He has great mobility as well.
T: Actually, most of his air attributes and ground attributes are 1:1 ripped from Kirby. His mobility is almost exactly the same as Kirby's. Kirby's mobility is one of it's biggest flaws because of how slow he is. In fact, Kirby's air speed (6.2) is actually faster than Bandana Dee's air speed (5.8). Bandana Dee's mobility really isn't good, in fact, it's actually quite bad.

His two projectiles are great.
Neutral-B can be used as a defensive option against swordies and approaches as well as a half-decent projectile.
Side-B does have bad lag but is really obnoxious as an edgeguarding/gimping tool.
T: Well, actually. Neutral-B's non projectile hitbox is actually much better because you can get more damage off it and it can even set up for some decent aerial combos. Wave Beam (charged neutral-b) actually has a pretty poor amount of range and isn't particularly threatening because Bandana Dee can't actually use it well for edgeguarding nor does he get any real reward off it. If I'm fighting a Bandana Dee at max-range with Bowser, I'm not even remotely scared. I'll just run and fireball while he's charging. Side-B is actually really only good for annoying people offstage because it doesn't really provide much of a threat to the recovering opponent at all. It sends opponent's vertically a lot of the time and I'm probably just going to recover anyway.

Speaking of edgeguarding, this is BDee's highlight.
Nair, Bair, Side-B, Neutral-B, Fair, Dair, posiibly even down-B can all be used to great effect to gimp. Bair in particular is an amazing move (probs because it's Brawl Dedede's Bair) for edguarding.
He can even do the Fence of Pain.
T: Nair sends up and away which is less scary for edgeguarding plus it has poor range. I already detailed all my gripes with Side-B as an edgeguarding tool, Neutral B also exclusively sends vertically so that's also a huge pain in the arse if you're trying to edgeguard. Whilst I will agree with you that Bair, Fair and Dair are good edgeguard tools, you're definitely overselling this character's edgeguarding.

And he can kill. I killed Mario with Bair at 80%. UAir kills around there, as does Up-B. He also has incredible throws. F-THrow is a suicide throw, D-Throw is a kill throw, U-Throw is a combo starter, and B-THrow is a good way to put the opponent in an edgeguarding situation. Combine all this with some great smash attacks and tilts, and you have a good character. However, Bandana DOES struggle with edgeguarding and survivability. Bandana tho beats Bowser and DK for one reason. He is tiny. Bandana Dee can just Nair them to high percents very quickly. Bandana Dee is a definite high tier. (rant end)

T: So much misinformation here. For a start, Bair only kills Mario at 80% at the edge of the stage with the worst possible DI. Tested on Waiting Room, neither Up Air nor Up-B kill Mario off the top anywhere near 80% at the peak of Mario's double jump. Furthermore, his throws aren't that good. Uthrow's a very weak combo starter and he can't really get much outside of Up Air and he certainly can't get many kills off it. Forward Throw is a better combo starter, but you're still only getting Fair or Beam Whip off it which are both enders so the application's a bit limited, plus the suicide throw is inconsistent in last stock situations. Down Throw is a very weak kill throw as well and Back Throw has pretty limited applications in edgeguarding cause you can DI away and avoid the followup. You also say that his smash attacks and tilts are great, but honestly, the only "great" smash attacks and tilts he has realistically are Up Tilt and Up Smash. Forward Tilt's pretty meh, Jab's inconsistent, Down Tilt is unsafe and unrewarding, Forward Smash is pretty meh and Down Smash isn't that good of a kill move. Dash Attack is also very unsafe a lot of the time, but granted, it's much better than before.

Bandana Dee sure as hell also doesn't beat the heavies. Both of them have very solid kill confirms that'll kill Bandana Dee about 70% earlier than Bandana Dee can kill Bowser/DK, and Bowser actually has the method to force Bandana Dee to approach him as well. The heavies also outrange a lot of Bandana Dee's normals and have disjoints of their own. BDee really can only win offstage vs them, but considering Bandana Dee lost to both of them in the last demo and Bowser's only got better...yeah. Dee/Bowser is like 40:60 Bowser favour and DK is like 45:55 DK favour.

You are correct that Bandana Dee does struggle with edgeguarding and survivability. His recovery is bad and he's extremely light.

Bandana Dee is low tier, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

There's a lot of other issues with your list, but I feel like this needed addressing first.



Also, Pichu > Goku. Pichu at least has a gameplan. Goku doesn't

nvm idk how the forum works

So I haven't seen anyone else make a tier list on the usefulness of Kirby hats so here's my own take.

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Since I'm not the most knowledgeable on Kirby MUs and seeing as this is my first post here, I'd greatly appreciate feedback.
There is no hierarchy within a tier (e.g. Bowser's ability isn't necessarily better than Meta Knight's).