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Starkiller
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Yeah the chat was getting pretty upset about the one Naruto player on stream lol.
IMO just stun removal, then utilt and dash attack not being such easy combo tools is all Naruto should receive in terms of nerfs. I personally think his clones are fine.
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Mon May 18, 2015 12:09 am |
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tay
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This sounds good hope they do this
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Mon May 18, 2015 2:48 am |
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Jammy
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clones just need lower priority
not being able to dtilt his clone on the ground is silly
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Mon May 18, 2015 5:10 am |
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scumbag
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Prefect shielding clone mine is always a better option then destroying it. You can a lot of time bait out another up B or just punish Narutos who camp around it.
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Mon May 18, 2015 7:56 am |
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RemPrower
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I like spindashing clones.
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Mon May 18, 2015 8:24 am |
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badcon troller
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Grab a sword, or high priority projectiles, or a character like Jiggs who have high priority moves.
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Mon May 18, 2015 9:03 am |
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TSF|Cookies
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Forget the swrod... Lloyd cant cancel it in most cases. Also powershielding is better in most cases imo.
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Mon May 18, 2015 1:28 pm |
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Jammy
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yeah powershielding every attack from every character in the game is best in most cases doesn't mean anyone's gonna be doing it
sometimes you just go for the safe option
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Mon May 18, 2015 1:37 pm |
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badcon troller
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I would try Lloyd's nair and maybe his dair (close enough to the ground, maybe a fair), and his fsmash, and dsmash, and his side b
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Mon May 18, 2015 5:38 pm |
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Doof
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Too bad for you folks, Wario can destroy clones with almost every move he has. ;3
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Mon May 18, 2015 5:51 pm |
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badcon troller
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Mon May 18, 2015 5:54 pm |
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TheCodeSamurai
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I don't think the priority on uspec clones is that bad, I just think Naruto needs the specialfall nerf that's coming anyway. A clone you could just dtilt and then go about your business isn't a very good tool. Naruto needs those tools to be successful.
Nerf dash attack and utilt so that you can't just use them over and over and make his combos more creative, possibly remove control of where the dspecial clone pops out of the ground from, and change Rasengan so that it isn't so good (possibly just replace it with a non-charging move).
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Mon May 18, 2015 5:57 pm |
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Lord doughnut
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Don't go over board with the Rasengan. It's fine if the stun comes out on the first frame and no more. We don't want to over nerf him or something.
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Mon May 18, 2015 6:05 pm |
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Savvy, eh?
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Rasengan would be super neat move if it weren't for Rasenshuriken, stun or no stun. Naruto just doesn't need a projectile with that much power. It would be even more awesome if Rasengan was changed to be a combo tool by reducing endlag on a successful hit, allowing for some crazy creative combos, which is what this character feels like he should be based around. Of course, it would be necessary to create a system to prevent Rasengan loops. Perhaps the move could change to a palm-centered chi explosion or something if a Rasengan ball is already out, kind of like how Mewtwo's Confusion causes knockback if the opponent is already dazed. That would be fun.
Removing the charging aspect could make the move more elegant as well. Simply give him a mid-charge ball on all hits and voila.
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Mon May 18, 2015 6:09 pm |
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Z.
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IMO, Rasengan shouldn't be able to be stored for later. Since it's already quite powerful, it's weakness (besides being reflected) should be using the attack at that particular moment. Sorta like MM's Mega Buster, only not given the ability to move while charging.
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