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Jammy wrote:
anyone else think shine is gonna be s*** for combos
you can't really followup if they DI away cause you can't WD out of shine
so you can only really combo off it if they DI poorly

unless they make it like fox's uthrow where you can't DI it (NotLikeThis)

Yeah that's what I got from others saying he looked choppy when performing his combos.

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I guess we're going to have to be very precise with our movement before jumping for a followup... Or learn to continue off of Shine->Lazor

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Lord doughnut wrote:
Jammy wrote:
anyone else think shine is gonna be s*** for combos
you can't really followup if they DI away cause you can't WD out of shine
so you can only really combo off it if they DI poorly

unless they make it like fox's uthrow where you can't DI it (NotLikeThis)

Yeah that's what I got from others saying he looked choppy when performing his combos.

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i just realized without WD his shine combos lose longetivity/flexibiity
even with low DI multipliers, nobody wants Falco to just pillar and techchase
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Kinda creates a choice for the Falco players: Go with the faster attack that, if DI'd, is less useful, or go with utilt which is slower but overall much better for comboing.

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Kinda creates a choice for the Falco players: Go with the faster attack that, if DI'd, is less useful, or go with utilt which is slower but overall much better for comboing.

Exactly.

That's why I always disliked it when someone says that a character looks top tier or something before the character's meta game has even started. Like here or when scum brought up Greninja if he made it into SSF2, he would be S tier because of his traits.

Like not all characters transition well.

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Lord doughnut wrote:
Starkiller wrote:
Kinda creates a choice for the Falco players: Go with the faster attack that, if DI'd, is less useful, or go with utilt which is slower but overall much better for comboing.

Exactly.

That's why I always disliked it when someone says that a character looks top tier or something before the character's meta game has even started. Like here or when scum brought up Greninja if he made it into SSF2, he would be S tier because of his traits.

Like not all characters transition well.


i'm still stressing that firebird having a worse distance than melee, and only having 8 fixed directions

is kinda fcked :gameandwatch:

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i whish they will swap the falco upb with fox upb, that will be more balance for both

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i whish they will swap the falco upb with fox upb, that will be more balance for both


No.

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Drarky wrote:
yamnow wrote:
i whish they will swap the falco upb with fox upb, that will be more balance for both


No.

I am guessing he is trying to be a troll so I just ignored him.

Now thinking of Falco's down smash, I wonder if it should be a semi-spike.

This is what I thought of the space animals smash attacks and how strong they should be compared to the others.

Fox: Strongest up smash, second strongest forward smash and weakest down smash.

Falco: Strongest forward smash, second strong down smash and weakest up smash.

Wolf: Strongest down smash, second strongest up smash and weakest forward smash.

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Drarky wrote:
yamnow wrote:
i whish they will swap the falco upb with fox upb, that will be more balance for both


No.

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Thinking about it now, I think that wall jumping being implemented would help Falco out a lot.

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That might be worth more than Id give it credit for right now, well see.

Im actually more curious what will happen to the KB of Firefox now that Falco is there, and Firebird usually being the stronger KO move afaik.

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That might be worth more than Id give it credit for right now, well see.

Im actually more curious what will happen to the KB of Firefox now that Falco is there, and Firebird usually being the stronger KO move afaik.


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shine -> upB better still work tbh

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