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MG Mafia XVI: Breaking Bad Mafia (Game Over) 
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As much as I'd like to not to, I'm forced to believe Lucina's claim.

First, the character appears reasonable for a mason claim.
Second, Pachino confirmed it! If Pachino was actual scum, getting himself into the fire would be silly. Furthermore, he could have easily got town points if Lucina was also scum by denying the mason relationship, triggering the bandwagon.

So, current possibilities:
-Lucina and Pachino are masons.
-Lucina and Pachino are scum-buddies: 135, Geno and Axel are town.
-Lucina and Pachino are scum. Geno and Axel belong to another mafia faction. 135's alignment is irrelevant.
-135 is scum.

Since Lucina is now a confirmed mason, my only concern is that she also could be a cultist, as I haven't seen many masons with possibilities to recruit. Also, again, the whole "everyone except Geno and 135 got roleblocked" strikes again.

So, my question is: Lucina, Pachino: Are you NOT a cult?

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Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:15 pm
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Brikawaiidesunoweabo wrote:
On a closely related note, Geno, why were you so quick to question 135’s investigation, but not your own? From what I understand, your results are not as clear-cut as those of a traditional cop, so the chances of your sanity being questionable are lower. However, that does not exempt you from the interference of bus drivers and the like. If Axel is mafia, would it not make sense for a scum busdriver to redirect your investigation, especially since you outright stated that you would be investigating him? Why do you have such faith in your own results, but not in those of another investigative role?

If I can allow myself some speculation, I would like to suggest the possibility of a Geno - Axel scum link. This seems consistent with the latter’s Day 1 actions, which could be interpreted as a hard early-game drive to distance himself from his partner without running a terribly significant risk of a lynch actually going through. (Especially not with the non-case that was presented.) Such a scenario also offers an alternative motive for Geno’s wanting to aim actions away from Axel on Night 1.

That's a good question, I didn't consider sanity for my role. However my role is so stripped as it is that it would be criminal to give it a sanity. It's certainly possible that someone could have used some kind of ability to shift axel's read to make him appear town like, but honestly and no offence, but given axel's play, i wouldn't have bothered if i were maf lol.

Nooooooo lmao, no. I have no idea why in the blue blazes axel is defending me so hard out of nowhere, especially after day 1.


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bothered to redirect the read on axel since his play was so... incredible.*


Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:21 pm
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ALSO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH KING ARTHUR :l full reveal setup my a**. Can't believe we're looking at someone who potentially has the power to conceal such vital information.


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Dr.Geno wrote:
Basically, I think there's some mafia member leaning back and laughing his butt off because the town's been pitted against each other. I believe both 135 and Lucina and Pachino. We're just out of good options. Lynching, especially mislynching won't help nothin'. I'm still for no lynching, even though even that isn't a great option. We can use our various abilities (as appropriate of course) and tackle day 3 strong. Right now the risk is just far too high.


Brik, Shoop and Auraka are leaning back as far as posting goes. I suspect scum among them. Imo Brik seems town, but he's a good player and could just as easily be scum. Thoughts?

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I agree with everything you said this time lol


So yeah, seems like we -might- have to No Lynch :T


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135 who was that @

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"X seems town but could be scum" is the laziest phrase you could say for anyone.

Axel, please, stop throwing accusations out of thin air.

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Wait Lucina, did you visit anyone?

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Since Lucina is now a confirmed mason, my only concern is that she also could be a cultist, as I haven't seen many masons with possibilities to recruit.

This is my concern too, considering unlike some games, the first post didn't specify that said role is excluded.


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UltimateZendayaFan wrote:
135 who was that @

You lol


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I'm not. I'm saying Brik is INCREDIBLY GOOD. Watch out for him in case I die tonight.

Major before-day-ends reads:
Geno - almost positive town.
135 - scum
194 - town
Lucina - town
Brik - town, but be wary of him JiC.
Auraka, Apple, Shoop, everyone else I forgot - null atm.

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So, my question is: Lucina, Pachino: Are you NOT a cult?

We're not. If we were, it's very unlikely that we'd start off with two members since cult can get overpowered really quickly.

@135 I was the one who sent the action. I told Lucina to tell you guys that he was roleblocked (I don't know what I was thinking).

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I suggested it in the first place, though...

But either Cactush really was jailkept, or Pachino was roleblocked.


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@135 I was the one who sent the action. I told Lucina to tell you guys that he was roleblocked (I don't know what I was thinking).

Still, that doesn't solve the question as to whether Lucina did anything last night.

Pachino, I've noticed a rather dramatic shift in your actions from Day 1 to Day 2. And while I can kind-of-sort-of go with your claim, I have a feeling that it's best to voice my suspicions, even if I am not 100% certain about them at the moment. Just as a future reference, if things go awry.

Theory:

Lucina is cultist. Pachino was Town, but was recruited Night 1, explaining why he's acting slightly less proactive (or maybe he's just busy). The whole thing about visiting Cactus was made up, and there was in fact no Role-Block or Jail-Keep. Pachino, since he is no longer Town, cooporates with Lucina. Furthermore, to avoid having the original cultist (who is the recruiter) being targeted, Pachino is labeled as the Recruiter, whereas in actuality Lucina, the one who recruited him, is.

Not saying I think this is the most plausible case, but IMO it makes sense and should be considered as a possibility.


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I doubt likelihood of a cult in this setup.

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