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MG Mafia XVI: Breaking Bad Mafia (Game Over) 
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Its just how my specific role works.

Normally when masons recruit scum they die.

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:48 am
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Ah, got it. Ok.

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:10 pm
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Huh. 12 hours.

I'd add content, but I had something to do today, so I couldn't really get time to research the previous pages.

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Guys, do I really have to make the deadline Tuesday?

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No, wait, give us time to reread the game please. : /

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Ok. This is what I've thought of so far.

We can assume that since we've killed one mafia member, there must be two others still alive. There were 5 votes needed to lynch Axel, which meant that there were two others who didn't. Because we know that Red was not one of them, we can confirm that at least one of the mafia members voted for their own buddy to be lynched, most likely to make it seem that he was town. Knowing this, we can split this into two scenarios:

I. One mafia member voted to lynch Axel while the other didn't.
With this one, if true, we can guess that Cactus would be one of the mafia members that restrained from voting for Axel. We could take him not voting as just him being busy, but we could also think of it as him separating himself from his other members to make it seem that he wasn't associated with them in any way. He may also not have voted for Axel so that he could save Axel some time to defend himself enough so that Axel was off the lynch list. Now, if Cactus is mafia, who would be the other mafia member that voted to lynch Axel? This could go many ways. It could be anyone, from Geno giving Axel an hour to try to prove himself to 194 accusing Axel just so he could seem town-sided instead of his actual alignment.

II. Both of the mafia members voted to lynch Axel.
If this one is true, then Cactus would be considered town. Excluding Pachino, there are three others left that may have voted off Axel: Geno, 194, and Brik. Despite Geno and 194 giving their roles out, we've yet to figure out whether their alignment is towards town or towards mafia. Therefore, we can think of possible mafia duos out of these three.

These are just theories, mind you. I haven't actually tried to figure out who's mafia yet because I didn't get much time to reread the game. I'll probably need to think more about it, but for now, this is what I've gotten. I'll let you guys comment on this for now, I'm basically braindead.

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Well. We got a lot done today.

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Somehow, I became the only person alive on Sunday.

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It's Monday for me, so I was at school.

Apple Engi wrote:
Ok. This is what I've thought of so far.

We can assume that since we've killed one mafia member, there must be two others still alive. There were 5 votes needed to lynch Axel, which meant that there were two others who didn't. Because we know that Red was not one of them, we can confirm that at least one of the mafia members voted for their own buddy to be lynched, most likely to make it seem that he was town. Knowing this, we can split this into two scenarios:

I. One mafia member voted to lynch Axel while the other didn't.
With this one, if true, we can guess that Cactus would be one of the mafia members that restrained from voting for Axel. We could take him not voting as just him being busy, but we could also think of it as him separating himself from his other members to make it seem that he wasn't associated with them in any way. He may also not have voted for Axel so that he could save Axel some time to defend himself enough so that Axel was off the lynch list. Now, if Cactus is mafia, who would be the other mafia member that voted to lynch Axel? This could go many ways. It could be anyone, from Geno giving Axel an hour to try to prove himself to 194 accusing Axel just so he could seem town-sided instead of his actual alignment.

II. Both of the mafia members voted to lynch Axel.
If this one is true, then Cactus would be considered town. Excluding Pachino, there are three others left that may have voted off Axel: Geno, 194, and Brik. Despite Geno and 194 giving their roles out, we've yet to figure out whether their alignment is towards town or towards mafia. Therefore, we can think of possible mafia duos out of these three.

These are just theories, mind you. I haven't actually tried to figure out who's mafia yet because I didn't get much time to reread the game. I'll probably need to think more about it, but for now, this is what I've gotten. I'll let you guys comment on this for now, I'm basically braindead.


This seems plausible, 194/Brik may be a Mafia duo, I still believe Geno to be very-town inclined.
But at the same time, we could rule out any more third party players couldn't we? If that's right, then we need to decide carefully who we pick to lynch, if we do lynch, because no-one's really being very talkative. My reads saw that Axel visited Pachino, and Axel was mafia, maybe Pachino could be a suspect, unless he has an absolutely solid reason on why he was visited by Axel.

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Ok so while reading back, I noticed this
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Geno. Pachino. - Only Confirmed town.

This kind of seems like a subtle attempt to cover up for a scum buddy. In no way has Geno been confirmed town. Not saying it's true but it is a theory.

Cactus, I fail to understand your logic. Axel was a mafia roleblocker and so him targeting me would make me more likely to be town since I was actually roleblocked that night. Plus I was pretty much confirmed town already by Lucina.

Another thing I noticed is on Day 1, when Geno outright stated he was a power role, Axel could of easily used his ability to hinder Geno's. He instead targets 135, one of the most suspicious players at the time (which was clearly an attempt to seem like a town roleblocker). This makes me believe that there could be a Geno/Axel scum link. Again, not saying it's true, just a theory.

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Pachino wrote:
Ok so while reading back, I noticed this
Vanellope wrote:
Geno. Pachino. - Only Confirmed town.

This kind of seems like a subtle attempt to cover up for a scum buddy. In no way has Geno been confirmed town. Not saying it's true but it is a theory.

Cactus, I fail to understand your logic. Axel was a mafia roleblocker and so him targeting me would make me more likely to be town since I was actually roleblocked that night. Plus I was pretty much confirmed town already by Lucina.

Another thing I noticed is on Day 1, when Geno outright stated he was a power role, Axel could of easily used his ability to hinder Geno's. He instead targets 135, one of the most suspicious players at the time (which was clearly an attempt to seem like a town roleblocker). This makes me believe that there could be a Geno/Axel scum link. Again, not saying it's true, just a theory.


Do you realize that argument also works for yourself, right?

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Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:48 pm
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First of it all, I'd like to excuse my absence during the weekend. I was hosting a smash stand at a gaming con.

Back to topic, I can see the reasoning behind a case on me, even more if you add how a one-way busdriver is a particularly suspicious role for a town player; however, I'm willing to prove my innocence however you guys want.
About possible scum: I'm still not completely sold on Cactus, Geno still triggers my scumdar a bit, Brik is Brik and he never is completely clean, and Pachino could still be Mafia/Cultist. We have to ponder the possibilities and come with the most reasonable conclusion.

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Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:06 pm
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I've been considering the implicancies of a mass softclaim (no character reveals: just claiming abilities will do). Not to create a plan (that stuff never works) but rather to know what can we do. I've seen little to no ability usage besides Geno's and mine, and sadly I also happened to have disrupted Geno's twice lol.

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So I got prodded, I'll make some replies soon.

Can you all get that silly Axel/Geno scumlink out of your heads though, I'd sooner lynch myself than work with him.


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Ouch. So, Geno, any theories of who mafia could be?

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