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even if they did add little mac, it'd be kind of boring since Captain Falcon already takes the generic fighter thing

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I will never understand why pointing things out has such a large stigma here and nowhere else.

And actually Kuro pointed out the main reason why I find Captain Falcon, Marth, and (to a lesser extent) Ganon rather dull as well. They don't do anything interesting for me.


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I will never understand why pointing things out has such a large stigma here and nowhere else.

I will never understand why you feel the need to go ">Missing the point" instead of just saying "You're missing the point".

Starting something with ">" is used for quoting. That's not something anyone needs to use here, though. There's a quote system built into the forums.
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And actually Kuro pointed out the main reason why I find Captain Falcon, Marth, and (to a lesser extent) Ganon rather dull as well. They don't do anything interesting for me.

Hey, now you're learning! It's a matter of opinion.

There's things that you don't find interesting but other people do find interesting! Now you can stop asking why people want to see a certain character.


Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:57 pm
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The thing about Little Mac is that he's not necessarily a generic fighter, he's a boxer. There's a specific technique to boxing that's not present in basic fighting game style fighting; it's more focused on blocks and counters. Look at the Punch-Out games. There's dodging blows, then moving in with a trapping combo and waiting for the chance to land a super move.

The only reason I don't see him working is that grabbing is illegal in boxing, and Little Mac's the only one who actually plays by the rules.

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The only reason I don't see him working is that grabbing is illegal in boxing, and Little Mac's the only one who actually plays by the rules.

SSB fights aren't boxing matches so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Makes me wonder what Skyward Sword Sheik will look like. They will most likely come up with a design for her just to leave her in. Otherwise separate her from Zelda, use TP Sheik, and make them two different characters completely (they wont do that but...)

That logically won't make any sense.


Yes it does. Sheik plays completely different from Zelda. If they changed both of their Down B's it would benefit the characters more. Its the same reason why Project M removed Pokemon Trainer and changed the Down B's of the three Pokemon.
Sheik is Zelda, haven't you played OoT?

Again, Link and Young Link in Melee were the same person too, yet they were seperate, they could have worked in a gimmick where Young Link pulls out the Master Sword and turns into his future self, but they didnt. I guess thats the key word. But if they can have Link and Young Link who were literally the same person, i dont see why they cant separate Zelda and Sheik.

On the subject of Little Mac, i'd like to see him too, as being a boxer, offers a fighting style that nobody else completely uses.

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Kyuubit wrote:
Nextoy wrote:
I will never understand why pointing things out has such a large stigma here and nowhere else.

I will never understand why you feel the need to go ">Missing the point" instead of just saying "You're missing the point".

Starting something with ">" is used for quoting. That's not something anyone needs to use here, though. There's a quote system built into the forums.

I have never once seen it been used for quoting. I've only ever seen it for lists or pointing things out.

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Nextoy wrote:
And actually Kuro pointed out the main reason why I find Captain Falcon, Marth, and (to a lesser extent) Ganon rather dull as well. They don't do anything interesting for me.


Hey, now you're learning! It's a matter of opinion.

There's things that you don't find interesting but other people do find interesting! Now you can stop asking why people want to see a certain character.

That doesn't mean I'm not curious, but I see where your coming from.

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The thing about Little Mac is that he's not necessarily a generic fighter, he's a boxer. There's a specific technique to boxing that's not present in basic fighting game style fighting; it's more focused on blocks and counters. Look at the Punch-Out games. There's dodging blows, then moving in with a trapping combo and waiting for the chance to land a super move.

Now this was the kind of answer I wanted. This makes Little Mac sound like he'd have interesting gameplay.

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The only reason I don't see him working is that grabbing is illegal in boxing, and Little Mac's the only one who actually plays by the rules.

That, however, can be fixed simply. People automatically break out of grabs after a second or two anyways, so instead of a literal grab he could do a quick jab/hook that would stun the opponent for the same amount of time, and then follow up with a more powerful blow that would simulate throwing.


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Nextoy wrote:
I have never once seen it been used for quoting. I've only ever seen it for lists or pointing things out.

Stop going to 4chan, then.


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Chiming in a little late on the shiek thing.

They probably won't be separated. The characters were designed from the from the ground up to mirror each other in terms of playstyle. It's not just a down special that separates them. I'm sure they'll pull some skyward sword design out from somewhere.


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Am I the only one who knows that Sheik's design in Brawl never appeared in TP?
It was just a model they had lying around or something like that.



Also, Impa and Sheik are not interchangeable.

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Am I the only one who knows that Sheik's design in Brawl never appeared in TP?
It was just a model they had lying around or something like that.




Also, Impa and Sheik are not interchangeable.

you're not even close to the only one
and it wasn't a model they had laying around, they don't import them. this isn't brawl hacking.
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Sheik doesn’t appear in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, but we based her model on a design that was drafted up during the development of that game.

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Sir Raptor wrote:
The thing about Little Mac is that he's not necessarily a generic fighter, he's a boxer. There's a specific technique to boxing that's not present in basic fighting game style fighting; it's more focused on blocks and counters. Look at the Punch-Out games. There's dodging blows, then moving in with a trapping combo and waiting for the chance to land a super move.

The only reason I don't see him working is that grabbing is illegal in boxing, and Little Mac's the only one who actually plays by the rules.

Well here's a question. How does a bounty hunter who does nothing but race for money and capture criminals (by racing) suddenly become a generic fighter? Captain Falcon just decided "I want to fight with FIRE", and here we are.

Besides his Final Smash, none of his moves are relevant to the F-Zero games, I'm pretty sure. They just took some moves, added Falcon to the name, and said they were specifically Captain Falcon's. (I'd add Ganondorf, but it actually makes sense for him to be powering up basic punches and kicks with dark magic. However, he's an honorable mention because there are so many other moves that are more relevant to the Legend of Zelda series that he can use)

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MegamanX20100 wrote:
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The thing about Little Mac is that he's not necessarily a generic fighter, he's a boxer. There's a specific technique to boxing that's not present in basic fighting game style fighting; it's more focused on blocks and counters. Look at the Punch-Out games. There's dodging blows, then moving in with a trapping combo and waiting for the chance to land a super move.

The only reason I don't see him working is that grabbing is illegal in boxing, and Little Mac's the only one who actually plays by the rules.

Well here's a question. How does a bounty hunter who does nothing but race for money and capture criminals (by racing) suddenly become a generic fighter? Captain Falcon just decided "I want to fight with FIRE", and here we are.

Besides his Final Smash, none of his moves are relevant to the F-Zero games, I'm pretty sure. They just took some moves, added Falcon to the name, and said they were specifically Captain Falcon's. (I'd add Ganondorf, but it actually makes sense for him to be powering up basic punches and kicks with dark magic. However, he's an honorable mention because there are so many other moves that are more relevant to the Legend of Zelda series that he can use)

What does this have to do with Little Mac exactly? You're comparing a character from a fighting game to a character from a racing game, both in terms of another fighting game. Of course Falcon's gonna get some creative liberties with his moveset.

See, fighting with fire's a popular trope in Japanese culture. The hero of the game or the anime usually gets that particular skill, because it emphasizes their burning desire for justice or whatnot. Look at Sol Badguy, or Recca Hanabishi. Even Kamina had a picture of a burning skull. And for a character from a racing game, speed traditionally = fire. Giving Captain Falcon fire powers wasn't some off-the-cuff decision, it actually makes complete sense.

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Sir Raptor wrote:
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The thing about Little Mac is that he's not necessarily a generic fighter, he's a boxer. There's a specific technique to boxing that's not present in basic fighting game style fighting; it's more focused on blocks and counters. Look at the Punch-Out games. There's dodging blows, then moving in with a trapping combo and waiting for the chance to land a super move.

The only reason I don't see him working is that grabbing is illegal in boxing, and Little Mac's the only one who actually plays by the rules.

Well here's a question. How does a bounty hunter who does nothing but race for money and capture criminals (by racing) suddenly become a generic fighter? Captain Falcon just decided "I want to fight with FIRE", and here we are.

Besides his Final Smash, none of his moves are relevant to the F-Zero games, I'm pretty sure. They just took some moves, added Falcon to the name, and said they were specifically Captain Falcon's. (I'd add Ganondorf, but it actually makes sense for him to be powering up basic punches and kicks with dark magic. However, he's an honorable mention because there are so many other moves that are more relevant to the Legend of Zelda series that he can use)

What does this have to do with Little Mac exactly? You're comparing a character from a fighting game to a character from a racing game, both in terms of another fighting game. Of course Falcon's gonna get some creative liberties with his moveset.

See, fighting with fire's a popular trope in Japanese culture. The hero of the game or the anime usually gets that particular skill, because it emphasizes their burning desire for justice or whatnot. Look at Sol Badguy, or Recca Hanabishi. Even Kamina had a picture of a burning skull. And for a character from a racing game, speed traditionally = fire. Giving Captain Falcon fire powers wasn't some off-the-cuff decision, it actually makes complete sense.

he means both characters are generic fighters already as it is and adding little mac would make it 3
i have no doubt that little mac could be his own unique character, but think about how boring people would find that. captain falcon is already the generic fighter type; uses fire and fights with punches and kicks and that fun stuff. ganondorf is also very similar as it is.
little mac would be incredibly boring in such a "dynamic" game like super smash bros. playable, anyways.

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he means both characters are generic fighters already as it is and adding little mac would make it 3

Close. I meant that Captain Falcon isn't even a fighter, and they were able to make him one just because they wanted to. They could probably do the same with Little Mac if they wanted to, as well.

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