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TheCodeSamurai
BR Member
Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:14 pm Posts: 2075 Country:
Gender: Anime Girl
Currently Playing: SSF2, MGS 3, Melee, Project M
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The thing is, just like Marth, Fox has one of the best approach kits in the whole game, and he's pretty used to getting comboed.
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Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:01 pm |
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Tyler™
Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:20 am Posts: 955 Location: New Jersey Country:
Gender: Male
MGN Username: ESM|TylerTM
Skype: Tyler.Macenars
Currently Playing: Anything in my Steam library
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i believe it's 55-45 favor. He has better options in neutral and its pretty easy to rack up damage he needs to KO pika with uthrow>uair at 80% or wall him out with bair. pikachu doesn't really have immediate answer for bair, he'd have to predict it coming and hard read fsmash or thunder, etc. and I should note that fox can shine out of the CG after about 3-4x. I do agree though, that pikachu has a really easy time edgeguarding fox to the point that an offstage fox should be a dead fox, and that pikachu has a good amount of kill confirms on foxlike dthrow usmash, uthrow>usmash, uthrow>dair,dthrow>sideB, etc.
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Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:48 am |
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Lord doughnut
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:29 pm Posts: 4539 Location: U.S.
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: SSF2, SSB, SSBM
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>.> What? He does have immediate answers for bair. It's not like we don't see when bair is coming. He has up tilt and fair to deal with Fox's bair. Also, its mainly bair that Fox has in the neutral since Pika can duck under his lasers, Fox can't really return Pika's projectile and Pika has Quick attack landing to get up and close near Fox. Are you stating at 0% or 50% because at 50%, Fox can't really escape it, he has to D.I. as much as he can.
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Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:29 am |
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Jammy
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fox wrecks pika in neutral straight up nair/drill are both soooo good in this MU also pika has a really bad defensive game imo, not many good way to get out if fox has stage advantage
and yeah fox can escape the chaingrab by SDI + shine
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Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:04 am |
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Lord doughnut
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:29 pm Posts: 4539 Location: U.S.
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: SSF2, SSB, SSBM
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Nair and dair are beat out by up tilt and fair.
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Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:44 am |
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SSF2 Developer
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:02 pm Posts: 1147
Gender: Male
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D-Throw Chain-Grab works from around 44% to 95%, but IDK if U-Smash afterwards is guaranteed to KO. But yeah, like Tyler said, I do think it's a very even (albeit volatile) Match-Up.
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Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:54 pm |
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Corvid Crow
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Fox BM is 6-4 for Fox Fox can dash dance and pressure BM from practically any distance BM cant zone against Fox due to his speed and shine The only reason this isnt any worse for BM is that he should be able to convert a stock every time Fox makes a mistake or is offstage
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Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:21 pm |
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Lord doughnut
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:29 pm Posts: 4539 Location: U.S.
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: SSF2, SSB, SSBM
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Also another problem is that Bombs can't be reflected this demo, so Fox can't Bomberman's stage control from him.
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Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:33 pm |
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Starkiller
SSF2 Developer
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:47 pm Posts: 2316 Location: BC Country:
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Currently Playing: Complacency breeds weakness. My opponents won't stop getting stronger, neither will I.
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Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:45 pm |
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Lord doughnut
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:29 pm Posts: 4539 Location: U.S.
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Currently Playing: SSF2, SSB, SSBM
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Oh sorry I read that wrong. Yeah I agree Fox beats BM. Also Godot your gif is perfect for this situation due to the conversation that might arise from this.
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Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:13 pm |
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