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MG Mafia XVI: Breaking Bad Mafia (Game Over) 
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I visited Geno (teh plot twist!!!) and got a Not Guilty.

But you got a guilty on Lucina, who is also town.

So either you're lying or something happened to one of your reads? idk


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Wait, is this assuming 135 is insane, Geno?

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Pretty sure my ability works fine lol

So either Lucina got Framed or her Role-Reveal is somehow made up, some sort of Mafia ability.

Or bus.


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Now, there is a 60% possibility of more than one town being dead tomorrow. No lynch may be viable (as there's a larger possibility of getting only one town killed), but not lynching for two days seems like two quick and easy kills for the mafia. This is a viable option, though, as it can give more discussion about what happens in Night 2 related to what we talked about in these days. I think Arthur's death from the mafia doesn't give much about the mafia itself other than that they're probably aiming randomly. What the next kill can show us is how they are targeting, so I'm leaning towards a no lynch for this one, though not yet.


I find the bolded parts rather...unresting.
First of all, IMO it hardly is advisable to rely on night abilities alone.
Secondly, I don't think attempting to study how Mafia target at night is a viable strategy. As soon as they want to, they can switch their patterns on the fly.

So, Vote: Apple Engi until decent explanation.


Here was my orignal post about my suspicions and stuff on Apple Engi.


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Holy s#%$&, Walt is town. If Pete was town, so was Badger and Jesse, and in turn, so is Walt.


Then explain who else would melt corpses with acid as a character ability?


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To be honest, I don't think we should base alignment on plot. judging by what we know so far, there doesn't seem to be a correlation.

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Wait, is this assuming 135 is insane, Geno?

It doesn't make sense if we're both town to get two different alignments, so someone mustve interfered on day one. At least I think that's the way it works. Alignments get tricky lol, at least for me.

Ugh, I want to believe everyone is town, but we need to start narrowing it down.

>>King Arthur - (Killed Night 1)
>>Lucina - (Killed Night 2)
>194
Auraka*
Nixter*
Brikawaiidesunoweabo*
Apple Engi
UltimateZendayaFan
>>Pachino
135
Mr. Shoop*
Cactush*

I'd like more content from those i've put a '*' next to, please. I'd like to point fingers at a few of the active people, but it's hard to genuinely do so when we know next to nothing about the less active people.

The ones I put a '>>' next to are confirmed town

The ones I put a '>' next to are the ones that have a very strong town standing, taking into consideration night actions and the like. 194 because of the claim which matched my vauge description to a tee.

I've been reading back over some of 135's posts about Walt possibly being town, and I almost got to the point where I agreed until I remembered that there were antagonists after Walt as well, it wasn't just Walt and Co. vs the cop brother in law. That being said, King Arthur's role has yet to be revealed. Right now i'm 50/50 as far as 135 goes. He could be town, but him doing the whole mafia swapped identity thing with King Arthur (explaining why it hasn't been revealed yet, and why he didn't elude to the character at all on Day 1) is also a legitimate possibility, and i'm a little irritated because if 194 didn't redirect actions to himself, we would have gotten a conclusion. I'm going to research the characters a bit more and see if there's any antagonist that fits that bill.

His reveal was almost too orchestrated. Coming out as a cop, but wasn't the target of a lynch? Fishy. 194 should have died last night, and I don't think silly scum is the answer here. I don't have any definite proof but I'm willing to put money on 135 being scum.


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not 50/50, more like 75/25 in favor of scum


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lol, Geno is still debating with me Day 3 lol

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I've been reading back over some of 135's posts about Walt possibly being town, and I almost got to the point where I agreed until I remembered that there were antagonists after Walt as well, it wasn't just Walt and Co. vs the cop brother in law.


Name 1 antagonist that melted corpses in the show.
As I've said before, it's strongly suggested in my character role PM that I and the police are after Heisenberg.

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That being said, King Arthur's role has yet to be revealed. Right now i'm 50/50 as far as 135 goes. He could be town, but him doing the whole mafia swapped identity thing with King Arthur (explaining why it hasn't been revealed yet, and why he didn't elude to the character at all on Day 1) is also a legitimate possibility, and i'm a little irritated because if 194 didn't redirect actions to himself, we would have gotten a conclusion.


I, unfortunately, have no way of disproving this part to you, the whole swapped identity thing. However,
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explaining why it hasn't been revealed yet, and why he didn't elude to the character at all on Day 1


Why would I clue the Mafia that I'm Cop?

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His reveal was almost too orchestrated. Coming out as a cop, but wasn't the target of a lynch? Fishy.


Yes, it's orchestrated, because I wanted to get as much out of it as possible, before I get killed at Night by Mafia or something. Not "orchestrated" as in the "mehehe evil plotz" sense you seem to be implying, though. I came out as a Cop because I had a "Guilty" result and it was about time the Town decided who to Lynch, simple as that.
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194 should have died last night, and I don't think silly scum is the answer here. I don't have any definite proof but I'm willing to put money on 135 being scum.

Geno, meanwhile should have died Night 1. Apparently Mafia didn't target either of us obvious targets. Meanwhile, getting Lucina to flip Town seems to be a mafia move directly aimed at me.

I mean, seiously, if I were Mafia, why would my team choose to target Lucina out of all people?


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194 wrote:
To be honest, I don't think we should base alignment on plot. judging by what we know so far, there doesn't seem to be a correlation.


I don't think I agree. There'll probably be copious amounts of correlation IMO. However, due to the amount of grey areas in the show, it would be difficult to divide the cast neatly into "heroes" and "villians", or otherwise a couple of unified factions. Pete and Badger are both grey area characters IMO. While they work with Walt, they are rather "innocent" and are kind of "vanilla" citizens, except they sell meth. I could see them in any faction, Town or Mafia. Skyler is probably grey too, IMO. Saul Goodman is also grey IMO, albeit a darker shade of grey.

Walt and Jesse are EXTREMELY likely to be Mafia.


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"Name 1 antagonist that melted corpses in the show."

I think you're taking the flavor way too literally.

"Geno, meanwhile should have died Night 1"
Not necessarily. Lots of people believed I was mafia day 1. It would have been silly of them to lynch the town's number 1 suspect at the time. However, Night 2 you weren't seriously suspected by anyone other than I and maybe Axel if he counts.

"Why would I clue the Mafia that I'm Cop?"
I suppose that's true, i'm not holding that against you.

"As I've said before, it's strongly suggested in my character role PM that I and the police are after Heisenberg."
Because you are, in the show. The show's "good vs bad" is much deeper than you're giving it credit for, it isn't nearly as black and white. Your character is probably the only one who is on town that isn't directly related to Walt and Jesse, or on their side, especially knowing my character, or Axel's character Skyler. They aren't grey, they're town. Did you watch the show, or resarch it? People like Gustavo would NOT be on the same side as Walt.

"I mean, seiously, if I were Mafia, why would my team choose to target Lucina out of all people?"
That's a silly question. Probably one that was prepared if you were mafia. What WAS the benefit of choosing Lucina? I wonder. She certainly wasn't the most active. Didn't pose a great deal of threat to the mafia. So why?

I might be barkin up the wrong tree, and the actual mafia could be lurking and tucking themselves away in the shadows but I'm going to have to go with my gut.

Vote: 135

135 if you were mafia, how would you justify not targetting the cop?

Saul Goodman is 194, who is town. Skyler is Axel apparently, who is also town. My character worked with Walt, and is town. Walt and Jesse are town, get their faction confusion out of your head.

I'd respond fully but i'm about to go to bed.


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Sigh. Alright, I'll put aside the factions stuff for now.

For now.

Anyways, as to why Lucina was targeted, and not me.

What I think the Mafia had planned was to have Lucina flip Town, then have me Lynched Day 3. Targeting me was high risk; there could be Trackers, Doctors, and Bus-Drivers on me. The presence of a Bus-Driver is known, at the least. They wouldn't be able to get me directly, so instead they off'd Lucina and had her flip Town. This way I would be a prime Lynch candidate coming Day 3. Also, contrary to your claim

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However, Night 2 you weren't seriously suspected by anyone other than I and maybe Axel if he counts.


my standing with the Town was shaky at best, the way I see it.


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135 wrote:
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Holy s#%$&, Walt is town. If Pete was town, so was Badger and Jesse, and in turn, so is Walt.


Then explain who else would melt corpses with acid as a character ability?

Mike, maybe. He was with Gus for a good while and Walt ended up killing him. Also when Gus killed Victor, Mike, Walt, and Jesse ended up melting the guy together, therefore he could be the one who melts corpses. (In the show he also was the one to clean up after the messes, like when Jesse's girlfriend died)

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Saul Goodman is 194, who is town. Skyler is Axel apparently, who is also town. My character worked with Walt, and is town. Walt and Jesse are town, get their faction confusion out of your head.


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Skyler White reporting for duty, if that helps anything.

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Oh right, I was sure someone claimed her. Axel was Jesse's girlfriend I think?

Shoop could you give a little more content?


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