drillshines (dair -> reflector) are still the best kind of shield pressure I think. it also chains into itself and upsmas/uptilt if you hit it, but it's hard to execute.
nair -> shine is easier and comes up in more situations but if you can go for drillshines then you should use those instead

I forgot about the shield pressure, I can just keep my opponent in shield because of the shield stun and follow up with a shine grab.

Thanks Jammy for reminding me.

But his ATs are still more complicated than Fox´s, even if nobody uses them.

Dair into shine is works actually sursprisingly good for me. I use it more often than Nair--> Shine.

Dair has lower priority, that's the drawback. For example, Fox can nair thru Naruto's side special but cannot Dair thru it.

And Tails' tails dash is actually easier to do with a controller (tap jump on) IMO. Which is funny, it's the only technical thing I've found easier to do on a controller than on a keyboard.

Skailler you make me wonder about you.

I said people would rather spam side special than instead of learning his advanced techniques. I didn't say anything about his ATs being less complicated than Fox's.

Didnt say you did. If people spam Side B over using ATs, its their problem. That doesnt make his ATs less useful, which I wanted to point out.

Their was no reason to add it if that was not, what I was getting at.

What you said didn't need to be added to the conversation.

Wow you have got to be the single most obnoxious person in the forums.

No, he was simply making a comment, hop off your high horse and deal with it.

Like you should be talking.

My apologies skailler for the way I acted. I'm sorry. It just appeared that you were stalking me because you comment on my posts after I make them a lot. That really made me feel uncomfortable.

I just found dtilt -> Shine -> uair works on some characters at low percents. It's really good on some characters because the uair combos into anything

No problem. I didnt want to stalk you, I just like responding if I have other opinions as someone else. You just happen to have a different opinion in more cases than others




Sounds good. Which characters does this work on?

I love you Skailler. <3

How many people attempt to shine spike with Fox the majority of the time?

I do
even though it doesn't feel as effective as it is in official Smash games

It feels okay to me, but I understand what you mean.

Also how many people here attempt to play Fox like Falco?

Me and some others really want some Falco.

I would do it more often if it actually was effective. Or maybe I just suck at that point

How do you play Fox like Falco?