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Casting votes during night seems like it would be OP for scum, and I don't see why it would be a town power. I've never seen it anywhere though so I guess im not exactly the upmost authority on the matter.

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Casting votes during night seems like it would be OP for scum, and I don't see why it would be a town power. I've never seen it anywhere though so I guess im not exactly the upmost authority on the matter.


I think it's likely to assume it is a mafia ability. Notice how DJ Wiz, one of the strongest town reads in game for most players, is affected by it.

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As stated previously I don't think that there are actually that many killing roles in the game. Shoop was probably killed by arthur's hook shot ability dragging shoop with him.
I betting that there are only 2 killing abilities in the game otherwise this game has the potential to be very unbalanced, which I believe brik wouldn't actually do.
I'm gonna need to gather some suspects. It'll be easy to narrow them down with so few remaining players.
Also Terra... I want to know if anything weird happen to you last night.


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Maybe they don't get a choice in who they put votes on. Maybe there's other parameters that dictates who gets the votes. Even if it was a scum thing why in the hell would they put a vote on DJ?

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Maybe they don't get a choice in who they put votes on. Maybe there's other parameters that dictates who gets the votes. Even if it was a scum thing why in the hell would they put a vote on DJ?


Isn't it obvious?

If he's town, they would just need a single vote on him to get him on a KO position, after a quicklynch combo. As I have stated previously, being in 6 v 4 v 1 is technically Lylo. If they get to hit any player with a 10% hit already, it leaves us at 5v4v1 which is pretty much our loss.

I'm extremely surprised you aren't noticing this trend. Are you playing fool? FoS: TheOneWhoKnocks

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Again, if it was a scum thing, why would they put it on the most town of towns? They would need someone to vote for him in order to quicklynch him.

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In my opinion, being able to place three votes on people at night would be kinda ridiculous.

I think the people who have the votes on them were the ones who triggered them. Maybe somebody has an ability like "if somebody visits you during the Night, they will have a vote on them the next day" or something like that.

Of course, the only way we could confirm that would be if the people with votes on them told us who they visited last night. And I can think of a few obvious reasons why they wouldn't want to tell us that.


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Also Terra... I want to know if anything weird happen to you last night.


As a matter of fact, something did happen to me last night, but it's related to someone else. If that person knows that they contacted me, they can claim, but I'd rather not claim right now.

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If he's town, they would just need a single vote on him to get him on a KO position, after a quicklynch combo. As I have stated previously, being in 6 v 4 v 1 is technically Lylo. If they get to hit any player with a 10% hit already, it leaves us at 5v4v1 which is pretty much our loss.


We are technically at MyLo. We still don't know if the third party is a Serial Killer: while it's extremely likely, I've seen a Survivor with a kill before. It's too risky(for the mafia at least) to rely on the SK for that purpose.

We have 4 mafia members, and it takes 6 to lynch.

Reads shortly, tomorrow perhaps.

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From what we can infere this time:

-There are at least two other killing abilities in game.
Two "other" killing abilities, eh? That infers that you have one yourself?
-There's a high chance King Arthur pulled the bomb in Day 1. He threw it to DJ Wiz because he was the one pressing him.
That's by far too general a statement. I was not the only one pressuring Arthur.
I'm really surprised as to why he threw it at all though. Forcing a lynch on Day 1 isn't the best play.

-Shoop was killed either by Mafia to render JC useless or by a town vigilante to prove JC true. I'm now more likely to assume JC is non-scum. This will require, however, his replacement to start playing more.
Having a hard time believing this to be genuine. The first statement is contrived and smells of scum. The later statement incriminates Crabby before he even starts posting.
-Lucina was killed most likely by the Mafia because his kill didn't bring any new information at first sight. He had claimed already and he kept himself at low sight during Day 1.
Lucina kept far from low on Day 1. He posted way more content than you, Terra or Blood, and though he may not of posted much, his posts were well formed and stated his opinions clearly.
-King Arthur death could have been caused by a town player, considering he still was a suspect during Day 1.
Unlikely. If you're a vig and you know it don't shoot people on Night 1.
-Finally, I'm now more convinced than before about the presence of a serial killer!
Mmmhm. Because your kill wasn't the only one?

Our odds at this point are fairly bad. We are at 6 v 4 v 1. If we needed to be careful anytime, it's now.
My scumdar, this pings it.

@Kyuubit: It's most likely an ability to cast votes during the next day. I'm familiar with those as Sakuya held a similar ability in Mafia VII.
@TOWK: Hold it! You can't make sure of that so fast! I've usually seen that kind of ability from scum! Why are you so eagerly overlooking that possibility?

This post. I don't like it bro. I don't see you doing this type of analysis as town.
I'm really terrible at scum hunting, but comments in bold.

Scum reads at this point would be Terra and 194 with a bit of Blood.

Hey TOWK what's up with this killing role nonsense?

@Kyuubit: The "Gold" role in 5 had an ability where he could place an extra vote on someone during the night.

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DJ, when I say "other" I obviously refer to mafia's factional kill as being the first. I have no killing ability, if you ask.

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DJ, when I say "other" I obviously refer to mafia's factional kill as being the first. I have no killing ability, if you ask.

Obviously shmobviously.

It's entirely ridiculous for there to be more killing abilities than we know there are already. Arthur pulled Shoop. That's the only possibility.

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@Kyuubit: The "Gold" role in 5 had an ability where he could place an extra vote on someone during the night.

My issue is that three people have extra votes on them. That seems a bit ridiculous, which is why I said I think it was caused by somebody being visited.

You're one of the people with the votes on them, do you have any idea how it got there?


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"killing role nonsense?" do you mean the issue regarding the vote-giver role? Or are you asking for my input on the multiple people dying thing?

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Shoop being town only points to JC/Crabby being town, not confirms it. If JC/Crabby were mafia it would benefit him to have the kill be on Shoop, since it "obviously confirms him town". If we go with the hookshot theory (which does seem likely) Authur may have hooked Lucina instead of Shoop, since the kills were listed by the player's number, and not by any other identifiable factor.

My FoS goes to Kyuubit for making a comment that is leading people to think that Authur, if he used hookshot, must have hooked Shoop. (DJ gets a bit of a FoS to for literally saying that this was the only possibility)

This page (38) potental Kyuubit and DJ scum buddies with some (now) Crabby, seems like a reasonable mafia trio to me. I'll try to get day one reads soon if I can.

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Yeah, Arthur could have hooked Lucina too. Could have sworn I mentioned that, but apparently not.

Note to self: read over your posts a few more times before hitting "submit".


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