Let's do it. Wii U or 3DS? (prefer 3DS right now but either is fine).

You can't be serious. She is not cheap at all man. A cheap character would be Luigi. Clearly you haven't seen officer Jenny or Nairo.

We get it you watch competitive- and yeah I haven't. But how would seeing one of the best ZSS players convince me that she's not cheap? Also I don't have a problem with Luigi.

I was talking to kb

I'm the one who called her cheap lol

I know but kb was the one saying the ZSS players are trash.

because they are

get a character that isn't an anime blow-up doll

not sure how ZSS is cheap
grab is super unsafe and how are you getting hit by paralyzer in the first place

meanwhile Luigi can get 108% off of a grab

Pretty much this. And I love how all it takes is a Dtilt to kill someone with Luigi.

You can do that with lots of characters. It's not easy to do though.

not at the same capacity that Luigi can
this isn't the clip that i found but i'm sure this gives a good enough idea: https://twitter.com/fals1fy/status/626178105426771969
luigi can literally jab to up-B

ZSS has silly autocombos but they aren't as deadly (nor really as braindead, somehow) as Luigi's. she has amazing follow ups from her grab which is the slowest grab in the game
ZSS is probably the better character still but i wouldn't say she is cheap. the cheapest thing is the stun from a fully charged paralyzer. which... how'd you get hit by it?

I see what you mean, but that captain falcon wasn't moving at all. If it was an actual player they may have been able to DI out of it. Idk about her being cheap but I definitely think she's one of the better characters. You can be hit by her paralyzer when it's not fully charged and still be grabbed after. She has so many options in the air. I've played ZSS's that constantly use her down special making her really difficult to touch, and when I do get near her, they hit the attack button and hit with the follow up. If you're anywhere near the edge you get spiked from it. Her range alone makes her difficult to get close to.


Also does anyone wanna play on 3ds?

being good =/= cheap though
melee Marth isn't a character i'd exactly call cheap

Yeah but I wouldn't call those players good. They were basically spamming moves and getting away with it. I guess I need to learn the matchup more.

Yes you do. Kuro Kagami is right Luigi is a brain dead character with his combo throws. ZSS isn't she is not cheap in any sort of way.