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Hiroshima Attack Anniversary 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10888571

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The Japanese city of Hiroshima is marking the 65th anniversary of the world's first atomic bomb attack.


With a representant of the US attending this time.

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The US government has been accused of issuing a “silent apology” for its atom bombing of Japan by sending an ambassador to a ceremony marking the 65th anniversary of Hiroshima being bombed.

The 65th anniversary ceremony of the Hiroshima bombing was attended by a US delegation led by the US Ambassador to Japan, the first such presence at the ceremony. The ambassador claims the visit is intended to “show respect for all of the victims” of the war.

However, his presence has been decried as tantamount to an apology by those concerned that the fact America was defending itself from a sneak attack by a nation bent on its complete destruction is being forgotten in favour of an account based on the much-cherished victimhood of atom bomb survivors.

The son of Paul Tibbets, the deceased pilot of the Enola Gay, is particularly incensed, calling the attendance an “unspoken apology,” and saying it promotes a warped view of Japan as being the victim of a US atrocity:
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“It’s making the Japanese look like they’re the poor people, like they didn’t do anything. They hit Pearl Harbor, they struck us. We didn’t slaughter the Japanese. We stopped the war.”

It is generally accepted that a ground invasion, thought to be the only way of compelling Japanese surrender prior to the use of nuclear weapons, would have cost hundreds of thousands of American lives, to say nothing of those of millions of Japanese in and out of uniform.

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“There were all kinds of hellish battlefields in the war, some caused by the Japanese army themselves. Pearl Harbor must have been like that too. Do the hibakusha [atomic bomb survivors] really have the right to judge which is worse?

“The bombs were unnecessary – it was all just so the Americans could get data on their effectiveness!”

“It’s 65 years on and those stupid American monkeys finally get it.”

Hiroshima and Nagasaki just think they are the only places in the world ever to experience the hell of battle – they are just incorrigible.”

“Those damn hibakusha never shut up about this stuff. It’s one part of the war, why does it deserve such special treatment?”

“It was horrible what happened to them, but Japan was pursuing its own nuclear bomb project at the same time as the US. And however you look at it, Japan started the war.”

“Americans are barbarians who don’t know how to properly lament the passing of the dead.”

“It makes no sense whatsoever for people to making an issue of killing people in a war. War is already bad, but it’s meaningless to bring ethics in when its a choice of killing or being killed.”

“There are a lot of crazies here saying the bomb was justified. What’s wrong with you loons?”"As expected, Americans don’t care at all about killing 100,000 people if they’re orientals”.

“It’s a war crime and the US must apologise.”

“For the US national interest it must have the right choice. They showed their might and got the data, and they were able to entire the cold war in an advantageous position, and eventually win it.”

“Why think only of the US national interest?

The bomb ended the war quickly with no additional devastation or fighting on the Japanese mainland, saving millions. This is a matter of historical fact.

We should rather be thankful they dropped it, and recognise that they have no need to apologise.”

“I just do not understand the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and why they think you should apologise for killing people in a war.”

“I can sympathise with an individual saying they are a victim of an A-bomb, but I can’t stand it when they say our whole country is the world’s only A-bomb victim.”

“Next up, compensation.”

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The atomic bombs might have had scarcely any effect on Japan's surrender anyway.

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Villerar wrote:
The atomic bombs might have had scarcely any effect on Japan's surrender anyway.

No, iirc the atomic bombs had quite a big part in the surrender.

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Villerar wrote:
The atomic bombs might have had scarcely any effect on Japan's surrender anyway.

No, iirc the atomic bombs had quite a big part in the surrender.

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Thus, Japan surrender, WWII ended. There were sencodary effect on survivors. :ko:

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If I remember, the US was going to undergo a massive assault on Japan, similar to D-Day, if the bombs didn't work.

I mean f***, by the time that bombs went off, we already had Okinawa.

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Actually, I had recently read that during the internal conversations in the Japanese court, the future of the Empire and the declaration of war by the USSR were featured far more prominently, with the bombing only showing up a few times (maybe only once). I'm not sure how reliable the work is, though, there is a lot of ideological agitprop in popular history.

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http://csis.org/blog/how-influential-we ... -surrender

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