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Hi boyhowdy this is a double post but I am mad
Watched as much SmashCon footage as I could, these are my findings;
-Idle Animation is same as Pikachu's as previously discussed
-Definitely no waddle, he just goes on all 4's like Pikachu when walking, this saddens me greatly
-first of all he seemingly only has 1 taunt, that's already a WHY, and to make matter's worse it's identical to Pikachu's little electric-y taunt (Which means it also hurts Pichu, and considering it's currently his only taunt, why)
-He does fall asleep when crouching, thank god, if that wasn't there I swear I'd be even more mad
Someone call Steven, I'm fine with :wario:'s DAir, :megaman: losing the Brick Toss was understandable, :lloyd: turning into Mii Swordsman is "Sure," but this is not OK
There's a time and a place where you have to put your foot down :sandbag:

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Bedoop wrote:
-first of all he seemingly only has 1 taunt, that's already a WHY, and to make matter's worse it's identical to Pikachu's little electric-y taunt (Which means it also hurts Pichu, and considering it's currently his only taunt, why)
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What on earth were the devs on when they thought of this?!?!?! :luffy: :luffy: :luffy: :yoshi: :yoshi: :yoshi:

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I find it funny how Pichu, being an unreleased character, has the most pages so far.
Also, don't worry about it having only 1 taunt, each character will have 3 eventually.

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I find it funny how Pichu, being an unreleased character, has the most pages so far.
Also, don't worry about it having only 1 taunt, each character will have 3 eventually.

But a taunt that DAMAGES YOU?!

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Sonario wrote:
TheBlue10 wrote:
I find it funny how Pichu, being an unreleased character, has the most pages so far.
Also, don't worry about it having only 1 taunt, each character will have 3 eventually.

But a taunt that DAMAGES YOU?!

Also,even Dark Pit has different taunts from Pit. Why is Pichu sharing taunts with Pika?

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Also, don't worry about it having only 1 taunt, each character will have 3 eventually.

Oh they sure as hell better
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Also,even Dark Pit has different taunts from Pit. Why is Pichu sharing taunts with Pika?

This is a good question because unlike Super Smash Bros. where they use models and therefore similar animations can be added/tweaked with 2 shakes of a lambtail (Especially if said characters are of similar-or-exact height, like the three Smash 4 Clones)
SSF2 ain't got models
Pichu's taunt was intentionally made that way
And I haven't the slightest clue why :sandbag:

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So, who here thinks Pichu's FS is just going to be a stronger version of Thunder Wave (The attack Pokeball Pichu uses)?


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So, who here thinks Pichu's FS is just going to be a stronger version of Thunder Wave (The attack Pokeball Pichu uses)?

Worse, we get a carbon copy of Pikachu's FS that leaves Pichu at 999%.

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Sonario wrote:
dragonballhero wrote:
So, who here thinks Pichu's FS is just going to be a stronger version of Thunder Wave (The attack Pokeball Pichu uses)?

Worse, we get a carbon copy of Pikachu's FS that leaves Pichu at 999%.


Oh, man. Would that be a (hilarious) nightmare.

I've got something a little bit more "believable", though it'd still be a pain in the butt to deal with. Remember when I said Thunder Wave might be his FS?

What if all 3 bursts of lightning did 10% recoil damage to him? That's a whopping 30% right there!

BTW, I should mention that my idea of Pichu having Thunder Wave as his FS comes from THIS artpiece one of the devs did during his reveal at SSC 2017.

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they sure are

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Creptiqal_SSF2 wrote:
The only thing that matters to me is Pichu's down special spike


Speaking of which, considering how Pikachu's version of the move was changed up to no longer spike opponents, it makes me wonder if Pichu was in mind longer than we thought....


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Bedoop wrote:
-first of all he seemingly only has 1 taunt, that's already a WHY, and to make matter's worse it's identical to Pikachu's little electric-y taunt (Which means it also hurts Pichu, and considering it's currently his only taunt, why)


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If SSF2 were an entirely 3D game, just like Smash Bros.
I would be fine with these changes, since that's usually what cloning does.
Some animations are different, sure, the taunt is not-the-best but I'm willing to put that aside, among others
But, this is not a 3D Game.
This is SSF2.
A sprite-based game that has shown so much creativity time and time again of characters, movesets and animations all leading up to BETA. In SSF2, you can't exactly get away with cloning that way because each frame has to be made from scratch, re-using animations doesn't fly in this house unless it's completely intentional.
Come BETA, originality sort of...
Not exactly "dropped," since originality is flying everywhere in terms of stuff like Arena Mode and whatnot, but,
Lessened, I think.
Yeah, a lot of contenders would probably be in terms of movesets in some cases (Like Lloyd turning into Mii Swordsman, yaddayadda, something-something Mega Man, something-something Bandana Dee, all that) but a lot of the cases I get why those changes are made in terms of listening to the Devs and stepping in their shoes for a little bit.
But then, there's Pichu.
When I first saw the splash card for Pichu, during the stream, I was ecstatic. Pichu was one of my favorite characters in Melee just because of how cute and silly he was, and next to his reveal was more Arena Modes which blew me away because I really like Arena Mode and--I'm rambling, back on track.
But then I watched gameplay.
All the unique animations he had in Melee just weren't there, at all.
No little dance for his idle, no waddle for walking, taunts are exactly like Pikachu's...
What happened?
SSF2 has had so much visible fun in it's sprites, winning contenders are definitely ones like :blackmage: (Especially 9b with the old Side Taunt,) :bomberman:, and in BETA :luigi:, :wario: and :luffy: are HUGELY expressive and it's amazing, I love it.
But Pichu is just...
Not Pichu anymore, really.
Yeah, his name is Pichu, looks like Pichu, has new balances and stuff to actually be good,
But what's a character without their, well, character?
Pichu in SSF2 at the SmashCon state was just...
Pikachu. He was Pikachu.
Of course, anything can change, and SSF2 Devs are well aware of fan-related stuff (For better, like Wario's Pummel, or worse, like TSON rambling for 5 years when he doesn't get what we're saying) and I'm certainly hope it does, but
Color me a little bit worried.
Atleast he still sleeps when crouching. :sandbag:

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