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Deciton_Reven wrote:
Terra wrote:
Have a townread on DJ playing aggressively as usual. 194's playing null due to me having seen this from 194-maf before.

Wait... 194-mafia playstyle == null read? No. That doens't make sense.


Yes. My Point exactly.

Deciton_Reven wrote:
I noticed that many of the reads for 194/Terra (around page 29) were null-leaning towards, but never leaning towards the same alinment in any one person's reads.

Because it was Day 1? Usually few reads get strongly established during Day 1, so it's usual than most reads point to the same person.

Deciton_Reven wrote:
Page 35 Terra saying he's town because he acts like this as town is scummy, before this point 194 and Terra kept FoS each other but never really went after each other.

That phrase is bad enough so it kind of cements the read. So, what's the problem with not having attacked (ie, voted) before?

Deciton_Reven wrote:
~This is after reading from page one to right now all in a lump sum. I think that there is a mafia lovers bond here, or in the least there is one mafia between them. I think that lynching 194 is a good idea for the same reason 194 wanted to lynch himself.


At first, I wanted to agree with this, but you are literally stating there could be a Mafia lovers bond. Anybody can tell you that makes no sense: again, the numbers statv 6 v 4 v 1. If both Terra AND Me were town, the mere fact of getting myself lynched would end the day in 6 v 2 v 1. even with the same number of deaths that happened last night, that would leave this supposed scum team with 3 v 2 v 1. While this sounds in fact good for the Mafia, remember they lost half of their population, and chances are they won't pull three deaths in one night again. So, the most likely scenarios are: (no particular order)
-5 v 2 v 1
-6 v 2
-4 v 2 v 1
-5 v 2
-6 v 1 v 1
-4 v 2

And none of those is particularly good for scumteams! So, the thought of a double mafia lovers is silly.

I agree with you, however, than one of us is Mafia, as the vote behavior has shown (if we were both town, mafia could win by simply lynching us already).

Deciton_Reven wrote:
~Actually reading day one has lead me to believe Kyuubit to be leaning more town, he's being pretty proactive and handled my
calling him out well.

And that proactivity has been lost during most of day 2. Why do you base your reads mainly in one single day?

Deciton_Reven wrote:
~Pretty null for everyone else...


So, let me get this straight: You have a town read on Kyuubit becausv of proactivity, but you have a null read on [:], who has probably been ten times more active, at least during day 1? (which, coincidentally, is the day you use to justify your read on Kyuubit?)


Deciton_Reven wrote:
TL;DR: Read it anyways, honestly if your going to play mafia don't skim posts...


Yeah, it was pretty useful: catching a bunch of logic flaws is always a good thing *edgeworth_bow_1.gif*

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Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:03 am
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Oh, ignore my second point, I read it wrong.

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Damage counter:

[:] - 10% [???]
194 - 50% [ [:], TheOneWhoKnocks x 3, King Kyuubit, Crabby, Densetsu ] Lynch - 1
Dephius - 10% [ [:] ]
Blood - 0%
135 - 20% [ ???, Crabby ]
Deciton_Reven - 0%
King Kyuubit - 0%
Terra - 40% [ 194, Blood, Crabby, TheOneWhoknocks ] Lynch - 2
Crabby - 10% [???]
TheOneWhoKnocks - 0%
Densetsu - 5% [?]
No Lynch - 0%

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135 is the third party.

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Oh wait I'm already voting Deph.

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Pretty much why I don't have towny reads on [:], I couldn't really get reads on him last game either. Kyuubit reads aren't from only day one, maybe his proactivity has been slipping, but that's often the case in mafia, especially when the game starts to crawl. Of course only IC's are the only people ever really conf town for me, especially given what happened to me last time...

I guess it doesn't have to be a maf-lovers bond, I guess a neat twist could be a one-shot cult (or cultafia) leader, if you really are Ice Climbers. You could even be town, I guess... but if all logic says (at least) one of you are mafia, and town can't lose if we lose 1 towny and 1 mafia (5v3v1) then potentially lose 2 more townies at night (maf kill/serial killer --> 3v3v1) the town still has another day, since a killer can't win with the mafia. We might even do better if the killer hits a goon instead (4v2v1). This all assuming we have a killer, if we don't then I see two kills at night being highly unlikely, which would be (4v3v1). All of those give the town another day to get more/better results and generally get more info on who might be what.

I'm really sorry if you're town, but, This is my intent to lynch 194, if there are any objections let them be known (particularly if my logic is flawed)

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Deciton_Reven wrote:
This is my intent to lynch 194, if there are any objections let them be known (particularly if my logic is flawed)

Semi-objection: 194 has already announced intent to hammer himself, unless that's changed recently.


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Vote: Dephius

135 is the third party.

Nope lol


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If you're going to vote for somebody without actually giving a reason, I'm going to do the same thing.


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Terra wrote:
Apologies for my absence: please way just a day or two.

Don't lynch me while I'm away.


Alright.

We haven't got much time left, though, and once the day's about to end, well...

So yeah, it seems to me you're kind of trying to delay the whole process.


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Densetsu wrote:
Deciton_Reven wrote:
This is my intent to lynch 194, if there are any objections let them be known (particularly if my logic is flawed)

Semi-objection: 194 has already announced intent to hammer himself, unless that's changed recently.


Yes, I still want to. My only problem is that I was waiting for Terra's reads/claim, but that won't happen soon...

DR, if you want to lynch me, go ahead.

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Well if your still willing to off yourself, I'd prefer that, I don't want you to end up begin a mafia bomb. /paranoia

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