The McLeodGaming forums were permanently closed on April 30th, 2020. You are currently viewing a read-only archive.
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Fri May 15, 2020 12:18 pm



 [ 339 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 23  Next
X Tournament Series: The Meta Thread 
Author Message
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 pm
Posts: 2198
Location: in your heart, and your archives
Country: Antarctica (aq)
Gender: N/A
MGN Username: Doq
Skype: Discord my guy.
Currently Playing: one of thousands of variations of Solitaire
Waifu: Es
Image

Welcome to the X Tournament Series
The X Tournament Series is a long standing series of tournaments originally started by me (Doqtor Kirby) in December 2014. The X Tournament Series is the second-longest running tournament series for Super Smash Flash 2, only to the Smash Island series; and is tied for the most events with seventeen at the end of 2015, also shared with Smash Island. The goal of the X Tournament Series is to provide the optimal tournament experience for everyone who plays the game.

What does it entail?
The X Tournament Series has had a long standing tradition of providing a monthly skill tournament at the last Saturday of every month. But the X Tournament Series is not one to shy away from experimenting, and that is easily accomplished with Qualifier events. All of this is done for the players to enjoy the event to the fullest.

The Rules. Learn em'. Live em'.
× 4 stocks
× 7 minutes
× No items
× Hazards are set to off
× Dave's Stupid a** Rule (DSAR): You can't pick a stage you won on in the set
× Sets are best of 3 games, winners, losers, and grand finals are best of 5. Salty Suites are best of 7 unless specified otherwise.
× Game 1 characters are double-blind. After game 1, the loser of the previous game announces the stage choice, the winner announces a character counterpick if desired.
× If a desync occurs, the match is replayed. If continuous desyncs occur, the player with the most stocks and least percent wins. If there is a discrepancy, it's the TO's decision.
× If timeout occurs, the player with most stocks/least percent wins. If there's same stocks and percent, see me.
× If a player uses a suicide move to take both players' last stocks, the initiator loses the game.
× Stalling is banned. This should be pretty self-expanatory.
× Gentleman's Clause is allowed. All rules can be thrown out the window if both players agree.
× Replay saving is highly encouraged. Or you get your head chewed off.

Stage Legality:
3 Stage Bans in the counterpicking process.
Neutral
         - Smashville
         - Pokemon Stadium III
         - Yoshi's Story
         - Battlefield
         - Final Destination/Nintendo 3DS
Counterpick
         - Dreamland
         - Tower of Salvation
         - Warioware
         - Castle Siege

Confirmed List of Events (2016 Season)

X1: Seiran - http://x-series.challonge.com/seiran - 30 January 2016
X2: Youmu - http://x-series.challonge.com/youmu - 27 February 2016
X3: Eiki - http://x-series.challonge.com/eiki - 26 March 2016
X4: Merlin - http://x-series.challonge.com/merlin - 30 April 2016
X5: Eirin - http://x-series.challonge.com/eirin - 28 May 2016
X6: Nue - http://x-series.challonge.com/nue - 25 June 2016
X Summer Bash 2016 - 9-30 July
X7: Komachi - http://x-series.challonge.com/komachi - 30 July 2016
X8: Raiko - [] - 27 August 2016
X9: Cirno - [] - 24 September 2016
X10: Hina - [] - 29 October 2016
X11: Suika - [] - 26 November 2016
X12: Tewi - [] - 31 December 2016

* All dates are subject to change.


Last edited by Doq on Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:58 pm, edited 57 times in total.



Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:38 pm
YIM WWW
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 pm
Posts: 2198
Location: in your heart, and your archives
Country: Antarctica (aq)
Gender: N/A
MGN Username: Doq
Skype: Discord my guy.
Currently Playing: one of thousands of variations of Solitaire
Waifu: Es
Table of contents:
- Definitions
- Differences Between X Scoring System and Flash Collective Rankings
- Basic Explanation of the X Scoring System
- The Win-Loss Ratio
- The Spreadsheet
- The General Player Average (GPA) and its Derivatives (GPA2, GPA3, and GPA4)
- The Future of the X Scoring System
- Appendix A: X Scoring System v2.1
- Appendix B: X Scoring System v2.0
- Appendix C: X Scoring System v1.0


Definitions
XSS - X Scoring System. Without a version number, XSS references version 3.0.
FCR - Flash Collective Rankings. The other major ranking system and what X uses to break ties.
Spreadsheet - The Excel document with the X sheets on it.

Differences Between X Scoring System and Flash Collective Rankings
Ok, so before I go into the technical details of the XSS, a few differences between it and FCR:
- The core difference between the X Scoring System and the Flash Collective Rankings is that the FCR is based off of tournament placings whereas XSS is based off of player-player interactions.
- FCR relies on number of entrants. XSS does not.
- XSS relies on set counts. FCR does not.
- Both FCR and XSS have complicated Spreadsheets, but also have a human-readable form.

Basic Explanation of the X Scoring System
The X Scoring System is a lot less complicated than it seems. In short, it's just a big spreadsheet of win-loss records between players. Because it's laid out that way, it is very possible to get different rankings based on a certain player than the standardized General Player Average (GPA). Read on to get details on these three elements of the X Scoring System.

The Win-Loss Ratio
The win-loss ratio plays a large role in the XSS, so large it is the entire basis of the rankings. As players play each other more, the win-loss records get higher, and by extension, more accurate as time passes.

The Spreadsheet
The spreadsheet portrays the Win-Loss records a certain way. Wins are along the rows and account for the GPA and GPA2. Losses by extensions are in the collumns and make the GPA3 and GPA4 (coming soon).

The General Player Average (GPA) and its Derivatives (GPA2, GPA3, and GPA4)
The General Player Average is a standard ranking for the XSS, and does not base off of a single player, but off of all players. The GPA is calculated by taking the average win count of all players fought by a single player. The GPA2, GPA3, and GPA4 are simply derivatives of GPA, with one or two changes:
- GPA2: GPA, with the highest and lowest values removed.
- GPA3: GPA for losses instead of wins.
- GPA4: GPA3, with the highest and lowest values removed.

The Future of the X Scoring System
This isn't nowhere near the cleanest system, and honestly I'd be better off using the ELO or GLICKO or GECKO or MLG or MGN system or something. Or I could provide support for this one. I chose the latter, and with my luck there will be an XSS v3.1.

Appendix A: X Scoring System v2.1
Formula: [ set(W-L, W > 0, W > L | W-(L-1), L > W, L > 0) + set(...) + set (...) ] / set count / tour count

Appendix B: X Scoring System v2.0
Formula: [ set(W-L, W > 0, W > L | W-(L-1), L > W, L > 0) + set(...) + set (...) ] / tour count

Appendix C: X Scoring System v1.0
Formula: [ set(W-L, W > 0, W > L | W-(L-1), L > W, L > 0) + set(...) + set (...) ]


Last edited by Doq on Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:47 pm, edited 4 times in total.



Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:39 pm
YIM WWW
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:27 pm
Posts: 469
Country: United Kingdom (uk)
Gender: Anime Girl
MGN Username: ohgosick
Skype: uberoo1
Currently Playing: Anything not called 'Undertale'.
Waifu: ur mum lmao
New series hype! prob shouldn't run the annual yet tho.

Oh, ty 4 using me in an example fam, makes me feel relevant, ye.

_________________
Image

The Americans came in and burned my village with their flaming uppercuts,
killing our water buffalo and leaving this scar on my chest...


Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:00 am
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:22 pm
Posts: 1448
Gender: Female
I prefer the irrelevant life

_________________
SoldierSunday wrote:
Nothing you do is viable.


Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:15 pm
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:08 am
Posts: 888
Country: United Kingdom (uk)
Gender: Male
MGN Username: Jammy
can't wait :D

_________________
:captainfalcon:

Youtube         Twitch

<insert giant anime gif here>

Image


Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:34 pm
SSF2 Developer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:47 pm
Posts: 2316
Location: BC
Country: Canada (ca)
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Complacency breeds weakness. My opponents won't stop getting stronger, neither will I.
What about 3-2 sets? Is that +1 or +0?

_________________
Men that are trapped by the chains of "maybe" can never reach their dreams!
The weak are washed away by the tides of fate. The strong drink it up.
No matter the man, we all wear masks. Whether it be over our faces or over our hearts.

Youtube: NinjaLobsterStudios
Stream: twitch.tv/ninjalobster

Click to expand thumbnail


Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:16 pm
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 pm
Posts: 2198
Location: in your heart, and your archives
Country: Antarctica (aq)
Gender: N/A
MGN Username: Doq
Skype: Discord my guy.
Currently Playing: one of thousands of variations of Solitaire
Waifu: Es
Phoenix Wright wrote:
What about 3-2 sets? Is that +1 or +0?

3-2 is +1

_________________
this post is an enigma. a dream.


Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:22 pm
YIM WWW

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:11 pm
Posts: 163
Country: United States (us)
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: All smash games, pokemon
this is a pretty good idea dude! i'm most likely down to join

_________________
Image

Mains:ImageImage :fox: ? :zelda:?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWPfLs ... BiEiGXBaQg


Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:55 pm
WWW
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:36 pm
Posts: 1222
Location: The wonderful world of... someplace that isn't on fire.
Country: United States (us)
Gender: Male
MGN Username: Dark Ermac
Skype: dark_ermac
I used to run rankings based on game wins, but that proved to be potentially problematic because it rewards the player who plays at the most events, rather than the one who actually wins the most. A guy who wins the first round at Joe's blahblahblah tournament 6 times should not be on par with the guy who wins the Official Mega Ultra Tournament XII: THE EDGE.

If anything, you should do it like Formula 1. Give players a small number of points for minor victories, and a more significant number for a good placing.

_________________
Image
Swinging a chain, swinging a chain...


Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:44 pm
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:27 pm
Posts: 9545
Country: United States (us)
Gender: Male
MGN Username: [TSON]
Skype: thesilencepwnsu
Currently Playing: with myself
sounds cute

*bestows magical gift*

_________________


Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:32 am
WWW
SSF2 Developer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:47 pm
Posts: 2316
Location: BC
Country: Canada (ca)
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Complacency breeds weakness. My opponents won't stop getting stronger, neither will I.
Dreamland's Only Elf wrote:
Phoenix Wright wrote:
What about 3-2 sets? Is that +1 or +0?

3-2 is +1

So then what about the other guy? Does he lose a point or lose no points?

_________________
Men that are trapped by the chains of "maybe" can never reach their dreams!
The weak are washed away by the tides of fate. The strong drink it up.
No matter the man, we all wear masks. Whether it be over our faces or over our hearts.

Youtube: NinjaLobsterStudios
Stream: twitch.tv/ninjalobster

Click to expand thumbnail


Last edited by Starkiller on Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:05 am, edited 1 time in total.



Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:58 am
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:40 am
Posts: 151
Location: Oak Harbor Washington
Country: United States (us)
Gender: Male
MGN Username: Bomono3
Skype: Bomono3 or bomono
Currently Playing: Some platformer
Great idea.
You might be able to make a reasonable top 15 players with this at a later date.

_________________
That picture is my face when i sd in a edgegaurd attempt.

My main is tails.
My secondaries are peach and fox.

My soundcloud (no relation to other accounts of the same name, its a long story)
https://soundcloud.com/caffinluvstmgc


Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:27 am
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 pm
Posts: 2198
Location: in your heart, and your archives
Country: Antarctica (aq)
Gender: N/A
MGN Username: Doq
Skype: Discord my guy.
Currently Playing: one of thousands of variations of Solitaire
Waifu: Es
X Qualifier incoming! 13 December, 2014. Sign up now! viewtopic.php?f=95&t=40352

Dreamland's Only Elf wrote:
PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP FOR ANY X TOURNAMENTS IN THIS THREAD!!!
THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE THREAD FOR SIGN UPS.

_________________
this post is an enigma. a dream.


Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:05 pm
YIM WWW
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:36 pm
Posts: 1222
Location: The wonderful world of... someplace that isn't on fire.
Country: United States (us)
Gender: Male
MGN Username: Dark Ermac
Skype: dark_ermac
If a player forfeits a set, does the other player still get points? If not, it could prove to be abuseable if one wanted to deny someone points.

_________________
Image
Swinging a chain, swinging a chain...


Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:42 pm
BR Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 5:21 pm
Posts: 2198
Location: in your heart, and your archives
Country: Antarctica (aq)
Gender: N/A
MGN Username: Doq
Skype: Discord my guy.
Currently Playing: one of thousands of variations of Solitaire
Waifu: Es
Dark Ermac wrote:
If a player forfeits a set, does the other player still get points? If not, it could prove to be abuseable if one wanted to deny someone points.

I have not decided on it yet. I know for a fact that sets will not be counted normally, but I'm not sure if I should give winner points or take points from forfeiter. Likely the latter tho.

_________________
this post is an enigma. a dream.


Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:13 pm
YIM WWW
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 [ 339 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 23  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.