You all know how this goes.
However, some characters are in really weird positions, such as Lloyd being an All-Arounder, despite me thinking that he's a Rushdown character. Maybe it's due to the Beta update that he's now a balanced fighter.

OK, here it goes:

All-Arounder - Mario, Pit, Naruto, Yoshi, Lloyd, Ness
Balanced attributes, no real strengths or weaknesses.

Rushdown - Tails, Pikachu, Fox, Captain Falcon, Sandbag, Goku
Offense focused close combatants, strength lies in their powerful comboing ability.

Zoning - Isaac, Link, Samus, Chibi-Robo, Marth, Black Mage, PAC-MAN, Mega Man, Bomberman
Defense focused ranged combatants, strength lies in their projectile usage and disjointed melee attacks.

Mix-Up - Falco, Peach, Bandana Dee, Zero Suit Samus, Sora, Sheik, Ichigo
Offensive fighters that have powerful pressure tools, can also play defensively with said tools.

Bait & Punish - Mr. Game & Watch, Luigi, Wario, Jigglypuff, Kirby, Zelda, Meta Knight, Sonic
Defensive fighters that relies on opportunites and take advantage of openings caused by the opponents, can also play offensively due to their many powerful attacks and combo strings.

Grappler - Luffy, Donkey Kong, Bowser
Characters that utilizes grabs efficiently, most of their attacks involve throws, and their throws makes for great combo starters, extenders, or finishers.


What do you guys think about the character placements? Do you think *insert character here* should be on *insert character class here*?

Leave a reply on what you think about the list.

Notes in bold

Changes

-Captain Falcon and Goku are now Rushdown characters.
-Black Mage, PAC-MAN, Mega Man, and Bomberman are now Zoning characters.
-Ichigo is now a Mix-Up character.
-Luigi and Sonic are now Bait & Punish characters.
-Donkey Kong and Bowser are now Grappler characters.
-Removed Powerhouse class
-Removed Stage Control class

Poll is now also updated! Re-cast your votes now.

Naruto is a Zoning character. He has a s*** load of projectiles and objects to be thrown out onto the stage. And he gets a lot of setups by them.
btw try to some of the Smilies for them so we can just view the images instead of reading the text

@AegisArclight I was always the Bait & Punish guy when I used Kirby in the official Smash games online.

Hmmm... I'll have a go with this






Feel free to point out stuff i've missed or made it a bigger deal than it should or something, i guess

Kirby is an amazing fighter in my opinion (you don't have to agree with me.), but just what type of fighter is he? Let's find out!


Based on these observations, I can conclude that Kirby is NOT the Bait & Punish type, and is instead the Mix-Up type of fighter instead. His overall stats total is a whopping 35.25/60, but out of all the types not added, in my opinion, the strongest type of fighter Kirby can be is the Mix-Up type, with a 7/10.

Your description for grapple r is completely wrong.

I fixed it.

Grappler is like grabs and throws, although I'm pretty sure you can jump out of Kirby's Forward and Back throws still.

I fixed it, again. Also, you can't jump out of throws, just to let you know. Only while an opponent is grabbing you is when you can try to escape.

I'm not sure you quite understand what each of the types mean, so I'm gonna try and explain each type and how it factors into Kirby as a whole.

All-Around Class: Okay, so an all arounder is pretty simple. All arounders are pretty fluid in terms of playstyle, in that you pretty much have free reign on playing offence and defence however you like, and their stats are pretty balanced overall. I'd say the one of the best examples of an all arounder character is as Naruto is extremely versatile and well rounded and he can play both a mix of pure rushdown using his projectiles as combo extenders, or pure zoning where he charges Rasengan to force approaches and plays a campy neutral with his Shadow Clones, however other examples of all arounders are characters like:
, , and .

Relative to Kirby, he's not an All-Arounder. Kirby doesn't really have the capabilities to play a zoning playstyle and generally has to get close to do most of his damage, but he also doesn't really have the capacity to play rushdown either so...yeah. I'd also like to correct some of your Kirby information by saying that , , and Pichu are all lighter than Kirby and that the fence of pain isn't a kill confirm. It's a fence, it has holes in it.

Rushdown Type: Okay, honestly, I think you're right on the mark with the term "Speed Type". Quite simply, the end-goal is to overwhelm the opponent as much as possible and give them absolutely no room to breathe whatsoever. Generally, these characters do this by pinning opponents down with their incredible speed. I would say that one of the best examples of this is , due to him pretty much having no real zoning capabilities whatsoever and the end goal usually to just be chasing the opponent down and comboing them to death, however other examples of this kind of character include:
, , and

Relative to Kirby, he's also not a Rushdown. You're pretty much right on the mark to be honest. The rest of the info doesn't really factor into the rushdown element as much, but yeah.

Zoning Type: Effectively, the gameplan here is to frustrate the opponent by keeping them out as much as possible. Zoning characters usually tend to have good range and/or lots of projectiles. They may generally be focused around defensive play, and generally many characters fall into that category, however, you can still aggressively zone your opponents out effectively. One of the best examples of a zoning character in my opinion is , as he can easily make opponents approach with his projectiles and keep them out and pressure them at mid range using their projectiles and disjoints. Other examples of this kind of character include:
, , , , and

Relative to Kirby, this is his worst trait. Kirby doesn't really want to keep anyone out that much and whilst he CAN harass opponents with his projectiles that he steals from other characters, he generally wants to get up close and personal and being far away from the opponent doesn't really help Kirby too much. Also, given how Kirby plays, Fox's blaster actually really helps him, but I've already had this discussion and I'm not revisiting it.

Mix-Up/Bait-and-Punish/Hit and Run: Functionally, these classes are basically described the same, and it's not really worth treating them differently. The name of the game is patience most of the time. Bait and Punish Characters want to effectively wait for an opponent to mess up their approach/offence/literally anything before going to town on them in whatever way they can. A lot of these characters can put extra emphasis on the punish part most of the time as well. I'd personally say one of the best examples of this kind of character is . Sheik isn't a pure rushdown character, but has the methods to bait approaches or hassle the opponent into messing up and has the speed and combo game to seriously dish out a world of problems to the opponent. Other examples of this kind of character also include:
, , , , and

I'd like to add as a side-note, archetypes along a similar vein to Hit and Run also go here.

Relative to Kirby, this actually fits extremely well. Functionally mix-up and bait and punish are described as being the same or they can mostly play the same. Kirby's neutral generally revolves heavily around bait and punish and just sort of bobbing in and out of range.

I suppose the only true mix up characters in my eyes would really be and , as Bomberman can force the opponent into a 50:50 state just by having Bombs out, whilst Pac-Man's Bonus Fruit and traps are so diverse and versatile that they could warrant being considered for this, but I don't think mix-up really exists enough on it's own.

Grappler: Grapplers put a lot of emphasis on scaring people into blocking with powerful normals or long ranged attacks in order to dish out the primary source of their damage through their grab combos. Grapplers are often extremely heavy, often hit really hard, and generally (and crucially) benefit immensely from landing a grab. The best example of a traditional grappler is ( 's a bit of a non-traditional grappler), as he hits hard, gets amazing damage opportunities and combos off his grab, and is terrifying to fight against. Other examples of this kind of character include:
, , (Chibi-Robo's a weird mix). , and

Luffy and Chibi are weird. Luffy is more a brawler-esque grappler than a traditional one as his command grabs are best served for combo extension rather than starting combos, and he has an insanely good set of normals to start combos with, whilst Chibi is a sort of zoning grappler in a sense.

Relative to Kirby, he's actually pretty good when it comes to the grab part. He has kill confirms off his Down Throw (Dthrow -> Hammer), he can suicide kill with Uthrow, Fthrow, and Bthrow, he can kill with his Uthrow at high percents and he has solid combos off his throws as a whole, plus a command grab that allows him to swipe powers, kill confirm (spit -> bair is a thing) and combo.

Post Turtle:

A post turtle is an unfortunate character who basically either has no real gameplan, or can't really do anything well enough for there to be an actual gameplan. Usually this is exclusively a bad character thing, and I don't think that there really are any post turtle characters in this particular demo.

I might add another archetype here if I've missed any but yeah.