Just found out Peach has a chaingrab on Fox/Falcon Involving up throw. auto dash, and a non platform stage. It's actually super awesome when pulled off since it gets fox/falcon off stage and open for a nair.

Also does anyone else use utilt? I think it's really good with a suprisingly huge above head vertical/ horizontal disjoint.

I like to use it as an additional taunt.

Yes, U-tilt is an underrated move for Peach. Its great at intercepting opponents coming down on you with an attack and is a good platform tech chase from below. It also can be used to hit opponents who choose to recover high, but don't go past its range.

omg it's hard to get, but FC nair oos is soooooooooooooooooooooo good. I find it easier to get when my shield gets hit (I can't do it raw, just holding up shield then FC nair oos), thats where all of my successes have been but there have def been an equal number of spotdodges from holding down too early. Another common output is FC dair lol.

Yeah, FC Nair is the best. It has a lot of priority and leads to a lot of combos, especially into multiple D-tilts, FC D-air, U-air, etc.

How bad is it that my peach relies on grabs to initiate offstage kills, or even straight up kills, almost always.

lrn to fair

i fair when they are offstage

Yeah, you can't rely on grabs for Peach at all. You have to be skilled at tech chasing and your edgeguarding needs to be on point.

Either this or become gdlk with turnips.

Peach's bair is like Fox's bair in 0.9a in that you can never send someone forwards with it, hitting them with the "reverse" hitbox sends them behind her. Reverse bair is hard to hit with her air speed anyways, but if she had reverse bair then the Armada combo rev-bair -> nair would be a thing.

You can't be gdlk with turnips with the lack of a proper item throwing system in place. Once she can do a dash throw, strong throw, and weak throw, then yes, perhaps. Right now, the speed and trajectory that turnips fly is awkward. Not saying you can't use turnips for some things, just saying they could and should be better.

yes please, if the turnips had had all the options they do in other smash games I would buy a ticket to apex and awkwardly high-five/handshake/brofist cleod. and go complete lord in melee and top 8...

Here's what I picked up on

•Air Speed feels faster
•Peach Bomber feels slightly faster
•Turnip pluck feels faster
•Dtilt feels sped up
•Nair's sprite looks like it matches the hitbox but it still makes Peach's entire body look smaller.

to add to this, the new way turnips work makes it much easier to combo with them and regrab them for extending your combos.