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That's what I was saying! But for some reason, he's the lowest of the three. Makes no sense, man. He's like Fox, just he has epic claws that deal more damage and s***. The only thing Fox has on Wolf is that Wolf's FS is like 50% of the time of Fox's, but then again, for real matches, there wouldn't even be a smash ball...

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The tier system is messed up.

That HAS to be it.

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I checked all the tier lists I could find. It was more or less the same.

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Oh god... What am I reading?

All three characters are exponentially different, wolf being the most different out of the three. I can't explain in too much depth since I'm on an iPhone, but a lot of wolf's moves have an incredible amount of startup with not a lot of payout. A slow projectile, etc. Characters with frame 1 attacks and high air speeds destroy him.


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Ok, explain why Bowser isn't high on the list.

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Because he's slow as f***.


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But he can commit suicide with someone with him. That's awesome.

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Bowser's too slow, he has horrible recovery, and he's too easy to meteor smash. Way too easy to punish if he goes off stage.

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Yeah but if he doesn't, he can deal some serious damage.

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I can't remember, who dies first when Bowser does it?
Cause I know that when Ganondorf does his side special they die at the same time.


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The enemy dies first. Since Bowser is on top. (Holds them while he rides them on top)

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Ah. Still, he's fast falling and LARGE.
If he gets caught in a combo, his damage is gonna rack up fast.


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Also, why is Olimar on the high tier, I knew he was good but not THAT good...

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Also, why is Olimar on the high tier, I knew he was good but not THAT good...
You see. You can't say Character A should be higher on the tier than Character B when you don't even fully understand what makes Character B useful in competitive matches. You're overestimating the characters you like and underestimating the characters you don't like. I better not get any BS for saying that

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Olimar ranks 8th on the current tier list. Many of his attacks are unpunishable alongside being high-powered and quick-hitting. He has great matchups and amazing camping game, although his recovery is easily gimped.


I main Sonic (E-Tier, 22), Falcon (G-Tier, 34), Samus(G-Tier, 33). All trash characters. I use them because they are my favorites and I (most of the time) have fun with them, but I still try my best to win with them against higher tier characters.

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Nixter wrote:
The enemy dies first. Since Bowser is on top. (Holds them while he rides them on top)

That still leads to sudden deaths.


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