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MG Mafia XIX: Dota 2 Mafia - GG 
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Geno, scum will actually be more likely to be passive as far as I can remember because in MG Mafia towns usually just blow themselves up: i.e. Turnabout Mafia. Don't see much benefit in being active as scum, as far as this game is concerned. Will elaborate if I can get time.

Arthur's probtown: don't see the scumpoint in claiming so early. FMPOV Arthur-scum would be more cautious of claiming so early, caution is a scumtell etc. Meanwhile, Vote: Champ.

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Terra wrote:
Geno, scum will actually be more likely to be passive as far as I can remember because in MG Mafia towns usually just blow themselves up: i.e. Turnabout Mafia. Don't see much benefit in being active as scum, as far as this game is concerned. Will elaborate if I can get time.
Ok. Is it just me, or does this scream "I am establishing a safety net for myself by equating activity with town intent"?

Town play was awful in Turnabout Mafia, by the by. That game shouldn't be used as a reference point.

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Arthur's probtown: don't see the scumpoint in claiming so early. FMPOV Arthur-scum would be more cautious of claiming so early, caution is a scumtell etc.
Scum Arthur wouldn't be hesitant to claim if it was a ruse, either.

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Brikanorak wrote:
Terra wrote:
Geno, scum will actually be more likely to be passive as far as I can remember because in MG Mafia towns usually just blow themselves up: i.e. Turnabout Mafia. Don't see much benefit in being active as scum, as far as this game is concerned. Will elaborate if I can get time.
Ok. Is it just me, or does this scream "I am establishing a safety net for myself by equating activity with town intent"?

Seriously, this. Does he expect that saying something like that is supposed to alleviate him of any scumminess? It seems like a desperate attempt to dismiss the heat on him while trying to remain cool. Man, my scumdar is really pinging off the charts. I think I know who I want my day two lynch to be now, but I want more information from king arthur first.

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Arthur's probtown: don't see the scumpoint in claiming so early. FMPOV Arthur-scum would be more cautious of claiming so early, caution is a scumtell etc.

How do you not see the "scumpoint" in him claiming in this situation if he was mafia? We said why it would be beneficial to him if he were in fact scum. Not everything is meta meta meta. Just because his "meta" implies that he may not make a decision in a certain situation, doesn't mean he wouldn't or can't, and I think you know that. Irrationally defending a scum buddy maybe.


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Arthur is lying.
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well, now

a whole flock of nothing happened

Nobody getting killed does not mean that "nothing happened". Arthur and Nixter are scumbuddies. The mafia killed nobody last night so Arthur could make his claim. The mafia did nothing, so to them, nothing happened.

The only logical explanation for why Nixter believes "nothing happened".


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well, maybe not the -only- explanation but still

and do me a favour. don't say "you're reading into it too much!!". doesn't work that way.


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Kyuubit Level Three wrote:
Arthur is lying.
Nixter wrote:
well, now

a whole flock of nothing happened

Nobody getting killed does not mean that "nothing happened". Arthur and Nixter are scumbuddies. The mafia killed nobody last night so Arthur could make his claim. The mafia did nothing, so to them, nothing happened.

The only logical explanation for why Nixter believes "nothing happened".

Actually, I was referring to how we're back at Day 1 pretty much, no deaths, and there were no announcements from what happened in the night, so I'm just saying it's like we're back at day one.

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Why isn't that what you said, then?

You don't know everyone's night actions, so don't say "nothing happened". Unless you do actually have a list of everyone's night actions?


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I think people would realize I didn't mean literally nothing happened, next time I'll be more clear, then.

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Please do so.

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Read through again, reconsidering my position on king arthur, since it does seem more like a rookie mistake than a scum play. I feel like other mafia team members would have disagreed because it looks too obvious. Maybe they did try a night kill, and he really did prevent a death. I feel very on the fence, and still want a response from arthur. I feel better about scum terra though, by a longshot.


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My opinion is that I don't have a (new, previously unvoiced) opinion strong enough to worth noting yet

Is that good enough for you or


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